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Unread 06-01-2018, 17:43   #1
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The statistics released by National Transport authority confirm the demand for rail with 45M journeys in the past year. This is happening despite all the limitations. Phoenix Park tunnel has been a huge boost and this lay closed to passenger use for years and Irish Rail had to be almost dragged into opening the route. There are other developments that would provide flexibility in Dublin also if some changes were made such as the Glasnevin junction or the Croke Park station open up. Likewise the Navan link should be invested in along with a spur to the airport. Invest in rail and allow people to commute other than by car.
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Unread 20-01-2018, 04:01   #2
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Open the Navan rail line as an example the demand is there for rail and itís too expensive to own a house in Dublin. Over 45m journeys last year let the politicians come up with solutions that are achievable like improving rail infrastructure and improving how people live.
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Unread 21-01-2018, 16:17   #3
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Open the Navan rail line as an example the demand is there for rail and itís too expensive to own a house in Dublin.
Yes, but the root of the problem is restrictive planning, zoning and infrastructure within 20lm of Dublin city centre which has strangled housing supply and lead to such a huge price differential between Dublin and places 50km or more away. Better address the causes of the problem (planning and investment failures in greater Dublin) rather than promoting more individually stressful and socially wasteful commutes.
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Unread 23-01-2018, 02:51   #4
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I think itís a mix of both many ppl donít want to live the city life but prefer the small town where there is more community connection to schools etc. for these commute is an option but not by car. Navan is an example of a town that is in striking distance of Dub but retains the town character. There is rail infrastructure in place and already a line half finished nearby so with some political will, local activism and new thinking the rail option is achievable.
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I think that's what people from a small town or rural background believe, but trust me, if you find yourself in a situation where you leave for work at 7am and arrive back at 7:30pm, there won't be much community interaction.
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Navan Line was discussed to death 10 and more years ago here. There is a spur which can be used into Connolly, but to be realistic you are waiting for the DART expansion and perhaps a railcar shuttle to/from that expansion.

Navan via Dunboyne is not a runner if it ever was then the Motorway has canned it. The idea of development now is for it to be much closer to the city than regional towns such as Navan. If you believe that there will ever be any planned development.
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At last the public transport option is being recognized look at the usage for 2017 the demand is there open the services into Dublin and let the public decide and the city breathe. Look at the option to the airport, the Glasnevin junction realignment and open the route to Navan as a start. Use the lines at night for freight movement instead of such valuable infrastructure being idle. Open the mind to ideas that will work like the Phoenix Park tunnel which was a hidden asset for yrs
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Navan Line was discussed to death 10 and more years ago here. There is a spur which can be used into Connolly, but to be realistic you are waiting for the DART expansion and perhaps a railcar shuttle to/from that expansion.

Navan via Dunboyne is not a runner if it ever was then the Motorway has canned it. The idea of development now is for it to be much closer to the city than regional towns such as Navan. If you believe that there will ever be any planned development.
So on that basis the M3 Parkway branch was used as a means of leveraging funds for the M3. What a dirty, cynical country we live in.
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Unread 04-02-2018, 04:37   #9
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Building roads is where the big cash is available and where politicians gain big influence with developers. Rail lines are more low profile and cost effective so less interest from the big guys. The crazy aspect is that there is big funding available for rail development from EU in the shift2rail initiative but Ireland does not appear to realize it. Navan has a rail link so it should be easy to connect the parts to provide the service for this growing town.
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The constant threat of rail closures has the effect of undermining the rail option and its clear that the National Transport Authority is a place that works agains rail as a means of transport instead of promoting new ideas to extend rail network. The reason lines are under used is because the services have been run down and price is increasing.Rail is an option for the future if we are to meet the UN sustainable development goals in 2030 so why is a state agency undermining this commitment that Ireland has give?
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Unread 07-02-2018, 13:34   #11
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Kicking the can of the dart underground down the road for decades, no ability to plan beyond the next election, no long term strategy except more roads more bypasses and longer traffic gridlock.
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Unread 16-02-2018, 12:47   #12
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Credit where itís due this long term govt plan has recognized the importance of public transport and will make commuting in Dublin viable in the future.....ar aghaidh libh anois agus beir bua!
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