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Unread 11-04-2012, 14:35   #1
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Default [12-13/05/2012] Dublin-Cork/Limerick/Kerry services - weekend bus substitution

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Upcoming Service Alterations (Updated 10th April)

The following significant works are planned in the coming weeks. Full service details will be confirmed in advance:

Lisduff Works
Due to Works between Ballybrophy and Thurles on 21st, 22nd, 28th 29th April and 12th and 13th May, services to and from Cork, Limerick and Kerry will have part bus substitutions on the Saturday evenings and Sunday mornings listed above.
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After nearly 2 years waiting its the Lisduff crossovers that are being replaced

This will finally get rid of the 70mph limit at Lisduff which should speed things up significantly
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12 April 2012


Upcoming Service Alterations (Updated 12th April)

The following significant works are planned in the coming weeks. Full service details will be confirmed in advance:

Portlaoise/Thurles Works
Due to works between Portlaoise and Thurles between 18.30 Saturday and 11.30 on Sunday on the weekends of 21st-22nd, 28th-29th April and 12th-13th May, there will be bus transfers betweene Portlaoise and Thurles on the following services:


SATURDAYS

17.30, 18.30 and 20.30 Cork to Heuston services
18.00, 19.00 and 21.00 Heuston to Cork services


SUNDAYS

8.25 Heuston to Cork
8.35 Limerick to Heuston
8.30 Cork to Heuston

On the Sundays listed, the 10.00 Heuston to Cork will depart at 10.20, and the 10.35 Limerick to Heuston will be delayed in Thurles for 20 minutes.
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After nearly 2 years waiting its the Lisduff crossovers that are being replaced

This will finally get rid of the 70mph limit at Lisduff which should speed things up significantly
yes, there has been a sudden rush on there, the new diagrams have been on site for well over a year, no idea why they havent put them in place before now.
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Should that be 08.25 Heuston to Tralee?
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These crossovers seems to have been last renewed in 2003 - are these upgrade works to higher speed rated crossovers rather than life expiry works?

http://irishrailwaynews.multiply.com...journal%2Fitem
http://irishrailwaynews.multiply.com/journal/item/3782
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dowlingm: I thought as much: there were crossover renewals not that long ago. What seems to be in preparation now is a complete renewal of the layout: new crossovers and turnouts to the loop: also all the sidings appear to have been lifted and new ones laid down. (Incidentally, the line limit is 80 on the up line, while the down line is subject to 25 mph as part of the preparation works.)

Mark G: you hope that these works will mean 90 or 100 through Lisduff: well I wouldn't bet on it: Ballybrophy was completely dug up and relaid at great expense and its still 70 mph. Limerick Junction has been re-signalled and all pointwork replaced, including high-speed crossovers, but it's still an incredible 25mph Up and Down for about a mile!. Even for stopping trains this imposes delays.

There appears to be gross incompetence in the Limerick area: the Junction is not the only place where a lot of money has been spent and the max speed is still a crawl.
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Lisduff appeared to get a crossover recovered from Marino Point in Cork if I recall correctly to deal with a condition related speed restriction.

The works currently are full replacement of both crossovers and the loop entry/exit on new concrete bearers possibly with UIC60 rail.
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Thanks lads, that does seem like a bit more work alright.

It would be nice if these fairly major works got a mention in the IE Projects page to distract from the big PROJECT DEFERRED on two of those that are there (if ye are reading IE web lads ye could at least drop those two to the bottom of the page from the top eh?) They are spending a lot of money here and should keep the public informed on what is going to come out of it.

I'm pretty spoiled at the moment because the local intercity operator is gone the complete opposite way with almost mindnumbing levels of detail about their current capital programmes on stations, infrastructure and rolling stock, which is vital given that they have managed to eke another $105m out of a Tory government that claims not to be fond of government spending.
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Due to works between Portlaoise and Thurles between 18.30 Saturday and 11.30 on Sunday on the weekends of 21st-22nd, 28th-29th April and 12th-13th May, there will be bus transfers between Portlaoise and Thurles on the following services:

SATURDAYS

17.30, 18.30 and 20.30 Cork to Heuston services

18.00, 19.00 and 21.00 Heuston to Cork services

Also, 17.25 Heuston to Limerick service will operate to Ballybrophy only. There is no service to Templemore, Thurles or Limerick on this train, customers for these locations should travel on the 18.00 Heuston to Cork service.

SUNDAYS

8.25 Heuston to Cork

8.35 Limerick to Heuston

8.30 Cork to Heuston

On the Sundays listed, the 10.00 Heuston to Cork will depart at 10.20, and the 10.35 Limerick to Heuston will be delayed in Thurles for 20 minutes.

Iarnród Éireann apologises for any inconvenience this may cause.
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I wonder why the 1705 Limerick-Ballybrophy is listed as "Bus" but the 1910 Ballybrophy-Limerick listed as "Intercity" on the Saturdays... they're not going to do the shunt to the branch are they?? (Do a search for Limerick-Roscrea return on the 21st, 28th or May 12th to see what I mean)
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no, sure there is no need to close the branch line the works are not affecting it. i would imagine it would be a lonely enough place though.
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These works happen on 12-13 May also.
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http://www.irishrail.ie/cat_news.jsp?i=4564&p=116&n=237
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Track Works - Portlaoise/Thurles - Weekend 12th-13th May
10 May 2012

Saturday and Sunday 12th, 13th May 2012

Due to works between Portlaoise and Thurles between 18.30 Saturday and 13.30 on Sunday, 12th-13th May, there will be bus transfers between Portlaoise and Thurles on the following services:


SATURDAY 12th May 2012.

17.30, 18.30 and 20.30hrs Cork to Heuston services

18.00, 19.00 and 21.00hrs Heuston to Cork services

Also, 17.25 Heuston to Limerick service will operate to Ballybrophy only. There is no service to Templemore, Thurles or Limerick on this train, customers for these locations should travel on the 18.00 Heuston to Cork service.


SUNDAY 13th May

8.25 Heuston to Tralee/Cork, 10.00 Heuston to Cork services.

11.25 Heuston to Limerick service.

8.35 and 10.35hrs Limerick to Heuston services.

8.30 and 10.30hrs Cork to Heuston services.

On Sunday 13th May, the 12.00 Heuston to Cork will depart at 12.30hrs, and the 12.35hrs Limerick to Heuston service will be delayed in Thurles for 20 minutes.


Iarnród Éireann apologises for any inconvenience this may cause.

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I did a return journey to Cork a few weeks ago and Lisduff had a 25 mph speed limit. When will it be lifted?
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I did a return journey to Cork a few weeks ago and Lisduff had a 25 mph speed limit. When will it be lifted?
the track needs to bed down and settle, so give it a few months. the gas thing about it is that any time made up will be wiped out at the next station until the timetable is updated.
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