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Unread 19-05-2015, 18:04   #1
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Default 0615 ex Cork nonstop to Dublin

This will start next Monday (25th) and arrives in Heuston at 0830. It runs Monday to Friday only with no opposite working
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Unread 19-05-2015, 18:17   #2
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06.00 moves to 05.55 and arrives at 08.20
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Unread 19-05-2015, 18:27   #3
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Full changes:
06:00 Cork-Heuston advanced to 05:55 and accelerated arriving at 08:20
04:55 Tralee-Mallow (MO) advanced to 04:50
06:15 Cork-Heuston non-stop additional service (arriving 08:30)
05:15 Westport-Heuston deferred to 05:25 arriving Heuston at 08:30
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While it's good to see services being added I can't help but think it's really a PR/market stunt and will not deliver much in the line of revenue/passenger growth.

Personally I would scrap the current 06.00 and replace it with the 06.15 service and have it serve Mallow only. Will make less than 30 seconds time delay and can easily be absorbed into the 5 minutes recovery time build into the 06.15 service. Mallow speed restricted as far as I know.

Charleville can be served by the 07.00 instead, can't see numbers being high and able to absorb the 1.5 minutes or so.

The 06.25 connection to the old 06.00 should be a direct Dublin service taking 2 hours serving Limerick Junction only. The 06.40 is regularly full to capacity by Portlaoise etc so while it's possible give those commuters seats from Kildare when there is some to go around.

So
06.15 - 08.30 - Cork-Dublin (Mallow)
06.20 - 08.20 - Limerick-Dublin (Limerick Junction)

So what we will now have is the:
05.55 service leaving Cork empty, 20-30 Mallow, handful at Charleville, 20-30 at Limerick J - 4 coach (265)
06.15 service leaving Cork with at most 80 - 3 coach (190)

Numbers are rough estimates but online bookings have being used as a guide and if I am being honest I am being overly kind with numbers I suspect.

IE will not increase revenue/passengers for a 15 minutes extra in bed.

Any thoughts???

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Full changes:
06:00 Cork-Heuston advanced to 05:55 and accelerated arriving at 08:20
04:55 Tralee-Mallow (MO) advanced to 04:50
06:15 Cork-Heuston non-stop additional service (arriving 08:30)
05:15 Westport-Heuston deferred to 05:25 arriving Heuston at 08:30
Note both the 0615 and the 0525 both arrive at 0830! Suspect there will be revisions to the 0525 timings.
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Note both the 0615 and the 0525 both arrive at 0830! Suspect there will be revisions to the 0525 timings.
I suspect that one of them has recovery time built into the schedule and will arrive ahead of that.

But given there are three tracks from Inchicore to Heuston, it's not impossible for two trains to arrive at the same time.
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I suspect that one of them has recovery time built into the schedule and will arrive ahead of that.

But given there are three tracks from Inchicore to Heuston, it's not impossible for two trains to arrive at the same time.
Won't make a difference if both were on time one would be held at Park West, 06.15 will overtake 05.15 at Kildare and should make it in by 08.25.

Could be a little trickey at Limerick Junction with around 5 minutes gap with the 05.55, 06.15 and 06.40 operating. Cutting it tight as the 15 minutes saving are being knocked off between Cork-Limerick J.

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I suspect that one of them has recovery time built into the schedule and will arrive ahead of that.

But given there are three tracks from Inchicore to Heuston, it's not impossible for two trains to arrive at the same time.
There are only two tracks from Park-West to Inchicore and 3 from there on. Whichever one gets the track at Kildare will lead all the way. A Portloaise service occupies the slow line.
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