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Unread 03-09-2009, 13:36   #41
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Default timetable from drogheda

Drogheda 0840 1033 1357 1617 1810 2025
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Unread 03-09-2009, 13:40   #42
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if one of the loco's then, that is in belfast is being fitted with nir signalling, that could be used to pull one of those orange buckets of rust parked in dundalk? potentially a temporary 3rd set?
Those rust buckets are actually two full MK3 sets with Citygold coaches and dining cars. IE have multiple options regarding motive power with which to haul them, including:

* Either of the 201s being fitted in Belfast with the UK signalling gear;
* Borrowing 112 from NIR, which has both signalling systems fitted.

The first option probably involves a slight delay but they could easily get going on recommissioning the coaches by using the 071 trapped in Drogheda to haul them to Drogheda depot.

They have spare locos, spare carraiges, spare manpower, spare facilities and still Irish Rail prove that they really should be called Irish Fail.
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Unread 03-09-2009, 13:43   #43
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IE have 2 sets of intercity coaches in Dundalk, both are in need of some minor repairs but out of the 18 coaches a 7 coach set would be no problem. There is a full first class coach there as well

NIR have 3 non enterprise locomotives

The long standing service arrangement is 2 sets from NIR and 1 from IE. IE have no back up plan bar a replacement locomotive
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Unread 03-09-2009, 13:49   #44
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The long standing service arrangement is 2 sets from NIR and 1 from IE. IE have no back up plan bar a replacement locomotive
This may not be accurate but i was told that the new ie intercity trains and the nir c3ks had signalling fitted to some of them (dont know how many) and that as contingency to an enterprise fail, to maintane service they would use either a c3k or the ie intercity train.... obviously all the new intercity trains are south of the viaduct which would only leave nir's c3ks..... if they do not have availabilty to service the route with a c3k, then it should never have been contingency.

as for the two orange things in dundalk, or even those ancient "hand out the window to open the door" trains nir had would do the trick for now
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22k units don't have NI certification yet, since IE didn't bother to sort it out, there are 6 of them, to match NIR 6 3CK's. Sure if things gets really sticky there is a steam locomotive with the necessary equipment

Thankfully the coaches in Dundalk have power operated doors and full clearance to large portion of Northern Ireland

The last two weeks have been crazy, with delays of up to 60 minutes occurring at random. It is shameful that the obvious solution is ignored.

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Unread 03-09-2009, 14:20   #46
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The last two weeks have been crazy, with delays of up to 60 minutes occurring at random. It is shameful that the obvious solution is ignored.
Its been an absolute nightmare and the new timetable changes absolutely nothing despite the assurances of Ken McKnight and Mal McGreevy at portadown yesterday morning....... they said that there would be a suitable time in and around the 18:30 mark.... 18:10 is too early for me so the 20:25 it is. Thats central at 22:00 for me for the next 3months at least.....
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I don't like the chances of shunting a 201 class loco from one end of the train to the other at Belfast Central. Or, for that matter, at Drogheda.
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Unread 03-09-2009, 14:40   #48
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I don't like the chances of shunting a 201 class loco from one end of the train to the other at Belfast Central. Or, for that matter, at Drogheda.
But if you are not under time pressure its easy. Or with a little bit of thought you could lash a 071 or 201 front and back of the Mk3 set

The breakdown in Dundalk is
2 gen vans
5 push pull coaches
6 stds
1 buffet
1 comp
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Enterprise - 1650 Dublin Connolly to Belfast Central 3-Sep-2009 18:49
Due to the bridge collapse the 1650 service from Dublin to Belfast Central is delayed by 53 minutes.

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Enterprise - 1610 Belfast Central to Dublin Connolly 3-Sep-2009 16:33
Due to the bridge collapse at Malahide the 1610 service from Belfast Central to Dublin is delayed by 13 minutes.

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Enterprise - 0935 Dublin Connolly to Belfast Central 4-Sep-2009 11:15
Due to the partial line closure at Malahide and the bus substitution between Dublin/Drogheda the 0935 service from Dublin to Belfast will be delayed by 30 minutes


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Unread 04-09-2009, 16:30   #51
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Enterprise - 1520 Dublin Connolly to Belfast 4-Sep-2009 17:00
Due to the bus substitution the 1520 service from Dublin Connolly to Belfast Central is delayed by 24 minutes.

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Enterprise - 1610 Belfast Central to Dublin Connolly 4-Sep-2009 16:56
As a knock on affect to the bridge collapse at Malahide the 1610 service from Belfast to Dublin is delayed by 42 minutes.
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Unread 23-09-2009, 15:35   #52
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Default 23-09-09 15.20 Conolly-belfast

Currently the enterprise is delayed by 17 mins from Drogheda. We told the reason due to the delay of an incoming bus from Connolly!
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Unread 23-09-2009, 15:40   #53
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Unread 28-09-2009, 15:29   #54
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Default [28-09-09 15.20 Connolly-Belfast Enterprise]

Currently delayed 10 minutes at Drogheda.
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Unread 28-09-2009, 21:10   #55
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I travelled on the 2025 ex Drogheda this evening; we were ten minutes early into Belfast Central and the service was fine; staff pleasant and helpful. The passenger load very low so a major marketing task ahead when the Malahide estuary bridge reopens. Its a shame as all through the eighties and nineties the Enterprise remained strongly supported despite all the obstacles placed in the way. We should hope for the beat when the line reopens and imaginative marketing from NIR and IE.
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