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Unread 08-04-2009, 11:41   #1
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Anybody else notice the sudden increase in ticket checks (especially at heuston)?

They are nearly on a daily basis now....last year if you saw 1 a month it would be it

Also had a check out in Hazelhatch last week!!!
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Unread 08-04-2009, 12:31   #2
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Plus a lot more people getting handed over to the gardai when they get troublesome

There is a big fare evasion problem and the return on a few inspectors standing around is significant, no excuses if you are caught getting off a train from Heuston at Hazelhatch.

Exit and entry validation is coming soon at Hazelhatch
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Unread 14-04-2009, 11:45   #3
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i've no problems with entry/exit validations..its the intimidation from the security goons that i have an issue with...and the poor attitude of ticket checkers
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Unread 14-04-2009, 17:52   #4
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this is cap in hand with exit validation, same happened in connolly.

attitude of inspectors can be hit and miss, we have it in writing what the default attitude is, we are working on changing it.

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Unread 15-04-2009, 11:13   #5
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attitude of inspectors can be hit and miss, we have it in writing what the default attitude is, we are working on changing it.
what is it? be ignorant and practically assault some people, ignore others??
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Unread 15-04-2009, 13:00   #6
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In contrast, the ticket checkers at the Amsterdam Biljmer/ArenA station were handing out paper and crayons to anyone with kids on Monday afternoon when I passed through.

(resists urge to make joke about IE hiring some clowns)
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Unread 30-04-2009, 06:56   #7
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Tickets have been checked twice in one week this week on the 06:45 train from Gorey, they've been checked only that amount before over the last couple of months
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Just had my ticket checked on the 16:40 train to Gorey, which is grand, just thought it strange that the inspector was accompanied by two security guards. Is that normal?
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Unread 14-05-2009, 17:12   #9
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Ask the rentaguards for ther PSA badges for a laugh.
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Unread 14-05-2009, 17:33   #10
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If they had that in operation on later trains like late night Dart and Commuter services(ticket checking and ability to eject non-ticket-holders), it would be a step in the right direction.
Though as I got the 21:00 Pearse-Maynooth today, each set of ticket barriers had an open gate, so again Irish Rail fail to get even the basics right

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They didn't serve any purpose. A person got on beside me at Bray (where a ticket can easily be purchased) but when the inspector asked to see it they just said they didn't have one! The inspector just said you know you should get one when you can and the person just responded to say that they never get one at Bray and just buy one when an inspector shows! He was just issued a ticket and no more was said.

I thought if you were able to buy a ticket before getting on you can be fined if you don't have one?
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Unread 15-05-2009, 09:31   #12
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You can (assuming the booking office was open; legally, vending machines do not exist). That person really should have been issued with a section 133 RSA 2005 notice for a fine of €100. I can only assume that either the booking office in Bray was closed or the inspector didn't have his book of fines (which would beg the question as to what he was doing out inspecting in the first place).
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There have been regular incidents on the 16:40 train to Gorey (and the following one to Rosslare) over the last number of months due to an anti-social element. This seems to be the reason for an IE personnel and security presence.

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Unread 15-05-2009, 10:48   #14
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You can (assuming the booking office was open; legally, vending machines do not exist). That person really should have been issued with a section 133 RSA 2005 notice for a fine of €100. I can only assume that either the booking office in Bray was closed or the inspector didn't have his book of fines (which would beg the question as to what he was doing out inspecting in the first place).
Is there a difference between a ticket inspector and a ticket vendor?
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Unread 15-05-2009, 10:54   #15
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Is there a difference between a ticket inspector and a ticket vendor?
Yes

There are three classifications

1. Booking office clerk (two designations within that)
2. Ticket checker (traveling or stationary some of whom are booking office staff)
3. Revenue Protection Unit

Only the RPU seem to issue fines
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Unread 15-05-2009, 10:58   #16
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Legally there are "authorised officers" (from section 22A of the Transport Act, 1950), who are allowed to issue fixed payment notices for fare evasion, and "authorised persons" (from item 1 of the schedule to the CIÉ byelaws (Confirmation) Order 1984), who are allowed to issue fare tickets. A person can presumably be both an authorised officer and an authorised person. All gardaí are automatically "authorised officers".
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Unread 16-05-2009, 08:34   #17
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There has been a big increase on ticket checks on the Rosslare line. There seems to be a regular RPU inspector on top of the regular guys. The 0535 from Rosslare seems to be receiving a lot of attention. Last Tuesday morning we had the RPU guy and one of the regular ticket guys on the service.

The 1640 had the RPU guy and STT on Thursday evening. I can only presume its to do with the junkies who have caused havoc on the service in recent times.
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