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Unread 11-12-2012, 20:28   #1
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THE Junior Minister for Public Transport, Alan Kelly, is to meet Irish Rail executives this week to discuss ways to improve passenger numbers on the Nenagh to Ballybrophy line. The train company proposes to cut some services under its new timetable, and commuters can submit their views on the planned changes to the company over the coming weeks.

Deputy Kelly had announced a new early morning direct service to Dublin earlier this year, but at the time, both he and Nenagh Rail Partnership warned that it would be a case of “use it or lose it”. The service has failed to attract enough passengers to keep it running.

“The new services in Nenagh and Roscrea, which were the first for over 20 years, have not attracted sufficient passengers. I stated publicly at the time of the service that it was a case of ‘use it or lose it.

“However I will be meeting with Irish Rail this week with a view to working up a plan to increase passenger usage on the line. I would call upon members of the public directly affected to feed back into Irish Rail’s to contact them as part of consultation process,” said Deputy Kelly.

The Labour Junior Minister for North Tipperary and South Offaly stated that there were rail cuts all over the country in Dublin, Cork and Limerick because of a financial crisis in Irish Rail.

“These cuts have been minimised in all Tipperary stations. The withdrawals are focused on services not well used and many of them are sensible and reasonable in the current economic environment – the situation we were left in by Fianna Fail,” he said.

While Nenagh Rail Partnership said it regretted the withdrawal of the early morning direct commuter service, it did not attract viable passenger numbers.

However, a spokesperson said: “We believe it could have operated successfully if it had been better timetabled and properly promoted. We expressed our concerns on both matters to Irish Rail in advance but we were ignored.

“We also pointed out at the planning stage that the proposed timetable was both unworkable and unattractivee.”

The spokesperson said the partnership welcomed the planned improvements to the most popular train services on the line from January. Journeys to and from Dublin will be 18 to 20 minutes faster in some cases.

Meanwhile, Deputy Kelly said that Templemore will “continue to have an excellent rail service with over 13 trains stopping in the station from both directions.

“I have consulted with Templemore Rail Users Group and those commuting to Dublin will have some improved journey times now. I welcome this.

“Templemore will remain well served for a rural town. Two services 20 minutes apart in the early morning will be merged and two services leaving Dublin one hour apart will be merged. There is one other withdrawal of an off-peak service.

“In the very difficult climate, this is sensible and reasonable but still keeps Templemore extremely well served by rail.”
Just as Mark said in another thread they are blaming advertisement and times of the service.
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Unread 11-12-2012, 21:20   #2
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Welcome to Irish politics, a rather suspect approval by the NTA where FOI records prove no detailed business case and no records which predate an email from RUI asking what was going on. The truth will never come out unless people are dragged in to give evidence under oath.

Either classic political pressure or an beautifully executed black op by Irish Rail managers to teach some politicians a lesson after being shafted by the last crowd and the WRC.

I don't think anyone in north Tipp hadn't heard about it

And the times offered were about as good as could ever be offered.

9.99 Nenagh Dublin was the cheapest possible fare, Thurles, Templemore and Ballybrophy all pay more.
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Alan Kelly needs to meet with people alright but its not Irish Rail..if I post what I want to say I could be in trouble!

Mark what are the chances of "rather suspect approval by the NTA" happening again?
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I very much doubt it will happen again as the NTA got caught out and anyone reading between the lines has already formed an opinion as to what is going on.
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As I've said on another thread ( and other posters have too ) perhaps Irish Rail should consider reversing this i.e. Ballybrophy -> Limerick via Roscrea, Cloughjordan, Nenagh, Birdhill, Castleconnell. even just for a trial period, see what the demand is.
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Birdhill, Castleconnell. even just for a trial period, see what the demand is.
Wouldn't suit the Nenagh Rail Partnership. They want Dublin and people along the line don't want a Dublin service. Would like to know if any of the Nenagh Rail Partnership group used the service for a real reason and not just counting the 4 or so people onboard.
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