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Unread 04-01-2012, 12:23   #21
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I get a bit tired of people fantasising about re-opening lines which have long been obliterated. People should get real.
Indeed.

Although I said it may have been more desirable to keep it open, there is no argument for the investment to reopen it.

When you look at the cost of reopening Cobh Junction-Midleton, which was a comparatively recently closed line (last previous service 1988), it's clear that it can very rarely be justified.

Fair enough for a line like Rosslare-Waterford where the track is effectively in place. And for a large population centre like Navan, it should be kept in mind. Those are the exceptions, not the rule.

TBH Many of the old lines were so poorly built, you'd be better off building on a new route.
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Unread 19-03-2012, 18:15   #22
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At a time when there is a serious threat to existing lines serving Nenagh, Roscrea, Clonmel and other towns, we should concentrate our efforts to ensure that IE don't take the lazy way out, which is more closures. This might mean opening up some threatned lines to new operators: the CIE unions won't like it, but that's no reason for running away from the problem.

I get a bit tired of people fantasising about re-opening lines which have long been obliterated. People should get real.

Should Glounthane-Midleton not have happened, for example? Certainly there were significant numbers of internet dwellers getting their pants twisted over Luas daring to reconstruct even part of the Harcourt Street line a few years ago.

It isn't a crime to say "what if" and it is not as if the purse strings get tightened or loosened on the whim of internet posters.
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Unread 19-03-2012, 19:13   #23
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The longer a line has been closed and the less of it is in CURRENT State ownership the less realistic a reconstruction is, particularly when lines that AREN'T closed are having difficulty obtaining resources necessary to keep them competitive vs the roads.

If we can throw reason out the window I propose that the Thurles-Clonmel line is not sufficient fairness since it doesn't cross a county bound, and thus the Derrydonnell-Loughrea-Cloughjordan-Thurles-Nenagh-Dungarvan line should begin construction immediately. 199km so with the bare minimum of acceptable equipment in the interests of balanced regional development (regauged Class 222s) the journey might take as long as an hour and a quarter, if a stop in Portumna is absolutely required.
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Unread 20-03-2012, 21:52   #24
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The longer a line has been closed and the less of it is in CURRENT State ownership the less realistic a reconstruction is, particularly when lines that AREN'T closed are having difficulty obtaining resources necessary to keep them competitive vs the roads.

If we can throw reason out the window I propose that the Thurles-Clonmel line is not sufficient fairness since it doesn't cross a county bound, and thus the Derrydonnell-Loughrea-Cloughjordan-Thurles-Nenagh-Dungarvan line should begin construction immediately. 199km so with the bare minimum of acceptable equipment in the interests of balanced regional development (regauged Class 222s) the journey might take as long as an hour and a quarter, if a stop in Portumna is absolutely required.
No need for the Caps Lock and the smart arsery. You are welcome to it.
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Unread 21-03-2012, 14:10   #25
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Cork Midleton had a proper business case and was properly supported by local authorities and planning. It scored as high if not higher than some schemes in Dublin

WRC was a case of moan and moan and politicians playing the game to get votes.

Nenagh currently is a political gig currently and is a basket case especially as it appears the change made this month has led to a net reduction in passengers
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How is this a customer service issue??? The line doesnt exist.

speaking as someone who lives outside templemore, works in roscrea, shops regularly in Thurles and goes to Thurles and Clonmel regularly for work reasons, can I say that this entire idea is so dumb that I thought the thread was some sort of prank.

Locked, in the hope that nobody ever mentions it again. Shameful stuff.
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