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Unread 29-11-2012, 12:30   #1
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Default 2013 Heuston & Regional Draft Timetable

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Unread 29-11-2012, 12:51   #2
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http://www.irishrail.ie/cat_news.jsp?i=4732&p=116&n=237
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Unread 29-11-2012, 13:23   #3
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Major changes

Portlaoise - Dublin all stops replaces Dublin Kildare

Dublin Cork is now 2:35 for most service.

Nenagh service revert to former timetable more or less.

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Unread 29-11-2012, 13:24   #4
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Neatly rules out rail as an option for someone leaving a Park West office at 17:30
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Unread 29-11-2012, 13:50   #5
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Why restore the 19.20 from Cork, it was dropped due to low demand a few years ago and anyone who travels on the 18.20 or 20.20 knows they carry very few passengers.

Glad about the good reduction in Waterford services stopping at Newbridge but disappointed that no effort has being made to have a 09.00 service to Heuston.
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Unread 29-11-2012, 13:56   #6
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generally excellent

there is no need for a 06.00 Cobh Cork.

If they put on a 06.30 service it would get people to the 07.00 Cork Heuston

Also good to see that the last sunday cork-cobh has gone from 22.0 to 22.30

Could do with the 22.30 weekday to Cobh moving back to 23.00 as the demand is there
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Unread 29-11-2012, 14:20   #7
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Why restore the 19.20 from Cork, it was dropped due to low demand a few years ago and anyone who travels on the 18.20 or 20.20 knows they carry very few passengers.
Balancing move as there has to be an equal number of services in both directions
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Unread 29-11-2012, 14:20   #8
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I assume that the 19:20 Cork-Dublin is because they'd have a set out of position, now that the 05:05 is no more. Most likely there's less of a loss to be made at 19:20. Seeing that it fits in between services, it doesn't need any additional labour and a lot of people working between 5am and 6am will no longer be needed.

Agreed about the 06:00 from Cobh. It should be an 06:30. This is feedback worth giving.

Off peak connections between Cork and Kerry have become a bit of a mess, but peak ones look a bit better, so it's a small price to pay for the faster times to Dublin.
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Unread 29-11-2012, 15:15   #9
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no more alan kelly express. the fact that the 1800 stop at brophy has been kept reflects the reality that 95% of the passengers getting off there just hopped into their cars.

I might do another two or three trips on the AKE. Still the usual 4-5 others every time on the branch.
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Unread 29-11-2012, 15:19   #10
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Minor nitpick: The 1630 to Galway no longer stops in Newbridge, however the 1635 to Waterford seems to have been moved to 1640 but retains it's Hazelhatch/Sallins stops. This is in addition to the 1610 being moved to 1620.
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The last train from Galway to Dublin will now be 19:15, rather than 18:05, which is a big improvement. I don't think in the history of CIE they ever ran a train that late from Galway to Dublin.

The 18:05 departure from Galway will become 18:10.
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Unread 29-11-2012, 15:45   #12
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Why restore the 19.20 from Cork, it was dropped due to low demand a few years ago and anyone who travels on the 18.20 or 20.20 knows they carry very few passengers.

Glad about the good reduction in Waterford services stopping at Newbridge but disappointed that no effort has being made to have a 09.00 service to Heuston.
There are no passengers whatsoever on any 1820 or 2020 Cork-Heuston servies to my knowledge
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Unread 29-11-2012, 15:55   #13
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no more alan kelly express. the fact that the 1800 stop at brophy has been kept reflects the reality that 95% of the passengers getting off there just hopped into their cars.

I might do another two or three trips on the AKE. Still the usual 4-5 others every time on the branch.
In fairness to AK the people of Nenagh were given it for a year and told to use it or lose it !
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Unread 29-11-2012, 16:10   #14
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Well we all knew from the start it wouldn't work. It was to be a 6 month trial but its going to struggle on for 9 months

The Nenagh folks are already trying the usual they didn't try, fares, promotion, etc etc excuses. I don't think there is anyone in North Tipp who didn't know and at 9.99 online you can't really complain


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Unread 29-11-2012, 16:58   #15
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Having looked at Waterford timetable, I ask upgrade line speed to 100mph as its not showing any real improvment in the timetable. The amount of extra time slotted into each journey is unreal and worse than ever.

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Unread 29-11-2012, 17:11   #16
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Having looked at Waterford timetable, I ask upgrade line speed to 100mph as its not showing any real improvment in the timetable. The amount of extra time slotted into each journey is unreal and worse than ever.
Now: 0600, Arr 0820 - 2:20
New: 0605, Arr 0811 - 2:06

Change: 14 mins faster
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Unread 29-11-2012, 17:14   #17
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Now: 0600, Arr 0820 - 2:20
New: 0605, Arr 0811 - 2:06

Change: 14 mins faster
Over all any time saved is between Newbridge-Heuston. They expect the train 3 minutes in Kilkenny. Kilkenny staff are unable to get a train to depart on time and if they can't do it in 4 or 5 then how wil they in 3. Its some stations have increased journey times. Very poor overall.
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Unread 29-11-2012, 17:24   #18
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It does not take 15 mintues between Thomastwon-Kilkenny. It can be done in 12-13 but of course all services are scheduled to have 15 minute journey times. This is part of the line cleared for 100mph. So average times in Kilkenny will be 7 or 8 minutes.

It takes 15 minutes between Kilkenny-Muine Bheag but most down services are scheduled for 17-20.

It takes 10 minutes between Muine Bheag-Carlow yet most services are scheduled for 12 or 13.

It takes 10 minutes (9.40 to be exact) between Carlow-Athy but most services are timed to take 12 or 13.

The 06.05 is the only service with any change in times between Cherryvile-Waterford.

Kildare-Athy also takes 16 minutes but some services take 17-20 minutes.

The 07.10 could easily do it in 1h45m

Need I go on?

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Unread 29-11-2012, 17:26   #19
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If you're sprinting from passing loop to passing loop there's only so much time to be made up.
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Unread 29-11-2012, 17:33   #20
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Great to see more use of the Kildare Route project infrastructure. 11 over takings heading out of Heuston between Commuter services to Portlaoise/Newbridge and Intercity services to Galway, Limerick and Cork. The Portlaoise services at 16:25 and 17:25 are both overtaken twice by Galway and Limerick services. Happy to see less stops on Intercity services thanks to the extension of the Kildare Commuter to Portloaise. Overall very happy with the new timetable.
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