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Unread 23-10-2014, 16:38   #1
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As it seems to be a weekly occurrence, maybe it requires its own section.

http://www.irishrail.ie/news/extratrain

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An extra service will operate from Dublin Heuston to Kilkenny tomorrow Friday 24th October

23 October 2014

An extra service will operate from Dublin Heuston to Kilkenny tomorrow Friday 24th October

Iarnród Éireann has introduced an additional service this Friday 24th October to cater for increased demand on our services.

The following additional service will operate;

Friday 24th October - 14:40hrs Dublin Heuston to Kilkenny
Athy - 15.21
Carlow - 15.32
Muine Bheag - 15.48
Kilkenny - 16.05

This service along with all regular services can be viewed and booked through the journey planner above.
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Unread 04-12-2014, 23:21   #2
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An extra service will operate from Dublin Heuston to Kilkenny Friday 5th December

04 December 2014

Iarnród Éireann has introduced an additional service this Friday 5th December to cater for increased demand on our services.

The following additional service will operate;

Friday 5th December - 14:40hrs Dublin Heuston to Kilkenny
Athy - 15.19
Carlow - 15.31
Muine Bheag - 15.45
Kilkenny - 16.03

This service along with all regular services can be viewed and booked through the journey planner above.
The only problem is its operating 7 days to late. I don't even think IE having to waste money running an additional 4 coach set will stop them from repeating the same mistakes as they will not monitor online reservations and general passenger numbers to actually supply the additional capacity when it's actually required!

Guess Dublin Coachs new 9 daily service to Kilkenny and Waterford won't be long sorting them out considering its only 5 minutes slower than most trains.
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Unread 05-12-2014, 17:09   #3
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An extra service will operate from Cork to Dublin Heuston Sunday 7th December

05 December 2014

Iarnród Éireann has introduced an additional service this Sunday 7th December to cater for increased demand on our services.

The following additional service will operate;

Sunday 7th December - 08:05hrs Cork to Dublin Heuston
Mallow - 08.35
Charleville - 08.49
Limerick Junction - 09.09
Dublin Heuston - 10.45

This service along with all regular services can be viewed and booked through the journey planner above.
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Unread 12-03-2015, 15:27   #4
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Additional Services: Galway to Heuston/Heuston to Waterford (Fri 13th) & Carrick-on-Shannon to Connolly (Sun 15th)

11 February 2015

We have introduced additional services this weekend to cater for increased demand on our services.

The following additional services will operate;

Friday 13th - 14.40hrs Galway to Dublin Heuston
Athenry - 14.54
Woodlawn - 15.09
Ballinasloe - 15.20
Athlone - 15.43
Clara - 16.04
Tullamore - 16.12
Portarlington - 16.35
Kildare - 16.50
Dublin Heuston - 17.30

Friday 13th - 16:10hrs Dublin Heuston to Waterford
Sallins - 16.28
Newbridge - 16.36
Athy - 17.04
Carlow - 17.15
Waterford - 18.08

Sunday 15th - 18:21hrs Carrick-on-Shannon to Dublin Connolly
Dromod - 18.34
Longford - 18.50
Edgeworthstown - 19.03
Mulingar - 19.23
Kilcock - 20.01
Maynooth - 20.08
Drumcondra - 20.33
Dublin Connolly - 20.40

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Unread 12-03-2015, 15:56   #5
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Interesting to see a semi-fast to Waterford bypassing Kilkenny introduced - hopefully that might become a regular daily feature.
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Unread 12-03-2015, 16:41   #6
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Won't be regular, big group booking on 16.40. Cant serve Killenny & Waterford because of schedule constraints on Friday afternoons, so going by demand. A single delay of 5/10 minutes from 15.00 puts the whole schedule out for the day!

Would be excellent if it became a regular thing in next timetable but cant see it!
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Unread 13-03-2015, 09:20   #7
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Won't be regular, big group booking on 16.40. Cant serve Killenny & Waterford because of schedule constraints on Friday afternoons, so going by demand. A single delay of 5/10 minutes from 15.00 puts the whole schedule out for the day!

Would be excellent if it became a regular thing in next timetable but cant see it!
You never know - with Dublin Coach on the route I think it wouldn't be a bad idea!
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Unread 13-03-2015, 20:46   #8
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You never know - with Dublin Coach on the route I think it wouldn't be a bad idea!
Possibly but it's Kilkenny which could see the biggest impact. IE have a strong share of the market there. BE were quick to take action with route 7 which suggests they have being impacted. Student market wise it only an extra €2 for the train so they shouldn't be impacted however cramped trains could be a driving force.

Took the 16.10 and it was very well loaded however semi fast turned into semi slow with it taking 2h20m like the 16.40 because the 15.10 was delayed by 5 minutes and impacted all.
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Unread 19-03-2015, 19:31   #9
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http://www.irishrail.ie/news/extratrain

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09 March 2015

We have introduced additional services this weekend to cater for increased demand on our services.

The following additional services will operate;

Friday 20th - 16:15hrs Dublin Heuston to Waterford
Athy - 17.02
Carlow - 17.13
Waterford - 18.03
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Unread 19-03-2015, 22:45   #10
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This is probably the fastest advertised Dublin/Waterford service to date.
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Unread 20-03-2015, 04:33   #11
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This is probably the fastest advertised Dublin/Waterford service to date.
Indeed fastest regular scheduled service by 2 minutes. 07.10 was scheduled for 1h50 but moved to 1h51 when Newbridge was added. They scheduled one of the sports specials for 1h45m last year. The actual times are 5 minutes less as they allow 5 minutes for timetables.

1h40m is very doable short term, you should get 3/4 minutes off the Cork works but Newbridge may need to be removed again.

IE should perhaps revisit line speeds again before next timetable to see if any improvements can be made across the network.
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Unread 27-03-2015, 16:34   #12
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16.15 Heuston/Waterford officially launched by IE and will operate every Friday. Giving out refreshments onboard today!
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Unread 27-03-2015, 17:44   #13
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That's good news. Well done to all involved. I look forward to seeing further additions on this and other lines in due course.

At this point the PDF route timetable should be updated to include both this (Fri only) and the 16.00 ex Waterford (Fri & Sat only) services.

Many folk use the online or printed PDF as their reference.

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Nice to see it become a fully scheduled regular service - maybe not daily as I suggested above, but weekly is a start.
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That's good news. Well done to all involved. I look forward to seeing further additions on this and other lines in due course.

At this point the PDF route timetable should be updated to include both this (Fri only) and the 16.00 ex Waterford (Fri & Sat only) services.

Many folk use the online or printed PDF as their reference.
For the 16.00 up yes however as far as I am aware the 16.15 is operating at IE discretion and not under PSO. I expect IE will operate it until May and resume in September when colleges return. JP only has it displayed until May but it could be a continuation of monitoring numbers.

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Nice to see it become a fully scheduled regular service - maybe not daily as I suggested above, but weekly is a start.
Would be nice but expect a complete timetable change would be required and it would require an additional return service daily which I can't see being overly justified at the minute but an 09.00 up in the mornings would be nice. Being constrained to 6 coaches when going via Kilkenny is an operational problem and managing capacity and demand is tricky from a cost prospective. Example there is no way both services would require a 3 and 6 coach operation outside of Fridays however you then can't cut the 16.40 to 4 coach and join up for following days operation into a 7 coach. You could use it on the 07.10 but if that happened IE would add Kildare or Nass into it's schedule something I would be apposed to so it's either run an additional service or run empty back.
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The 16.15 service has passed IE trail period and has being updated into the JP. Being operating at around 65-70% capacity.

The 16.15 was added just over 12 months ago when IE axed 141 seats off the 15.10/16.40 so the actual gain in capacity is just 49 seats. Before the 16.15 was added there was on average between 40-70 standing on the 16.40 weekly, 70 being the highest recorded in recent times with 40 being a minimum loading weekly. Removing any stops from the 16.40 wouldn't of solved the problem either. We also know the 15.10 has issue regularly.

All IE have to do now is take the 6 piece 22 off the 13.00/16.20 Dublin-Cork on Sundays and rightfully restore it to 14.10/18.05 Dublin-Waterford from September to avoid the landslide in passenger numbers which took place. DublinCoach will be on hard in September and IE will face problems retaining passengers if they don't provide capacity. The service from Kilkenny is carrying much better loads than Waterford and IE could be feeling the pinch particularly with students already.
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Unread 29-11-2015, 15:30   #17
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Nice to see it become a fully scheduled regular service - maybe not daily as I suggested above, but weekly is a start.
Rumour has it once the new timetable is implemented it or a similar service like it will run Mon-Sat.

All they need now ensure the signalling system can keep up with speed, passing though Thomastown at a slow 50 mph, signal which controls
Derrynahinch and Kiltorcan crossings only changes when the train is practically about to stop despite a signal before Kiltorcan which is the crossing causing the hold up.

The biggest issue is Lavistown when the line is fully clear the train must stop before it gets cleared into the loop and more less stop on the loop before been cleared out of the other side. Is it just a rubbish system as why is clearing a train into sections so difficult there when for example clearing trains in/out of stations takes seconds if crossing or the line is fully clear before the train even arrives yet switching a set of points here cannot be completed in advance and there would be no lc issues.

The 07.10 up appears to get a clear run around Lavistown and that with a level crossing immediately after it re-joins main line. Perhaps so modification took place?

Given drivers are fully aware of line speeds the amount of danger signals displayed more less requires the train to slow miles from where it should entering the loop and even with that slowing down they still can't manage to clear. Easily 3+ minutes wasted and another 2+ south of Thomastown.
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