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Unread 16-10-2015, 14:31   #1
Jamie2k9
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Default 17.30/17.35 Heuston Departures

While very late in the current timetable cycle to complain considering a new one is on the way, IE seem'ed to have made a poor scheduling judgment on these services.

Not a regular users of the 17.35 service as it's more popular for people only traveling towards Kilkenny over others but have taken it over the last few weeks at times and scheduling is really bad.

17.30 - Galway (Nass 17.47/48), (Newbridge 17.55/56)
17.35 - Waterford (Nass 17.53/54), (Kildare 18.06/18.07)

The 17.35 either departs 2-3 minutes late, crawls until Clondalkin shows more less all Orange/Red Signals once you leave station yard, crawls and/or stops for 1-2 minutes outside Nass, crawls from East Newbridge until around the Curragh not much point in speeding up if your are stopping in Kildare.

So what is the issue with the 17.30 the scheduling is generous to Nass for it and there is nothing holding it up...

Up to 40-45 minutes to Kildare on the 17.35 service while it's perfectly doable in 27-28 minutes with 1 stop + Kildare.

Biggest issue is it often still manages to arrive in Waterford +4 ahead of schedule even carrying a 8 minute delay departing Carlow....

There is no reason why next timetable all Waterford (via KK) services are not block scheduled for 2 hours and express 1h45m. The playing it safe timetabling is getting boring, if IE actually played it safe with routes to Galway/Limerick Waterford services would have a decent schedule as every single morning they are held up because of late Galway/Limerick services.

07.50 can take up to 25 minutes to complete a journey of around 17/18 minutes to Kildare but of course it arrives in Heuston more less on time. Just one example!

The new 16.15 alleged express has a schedule for 25 minutes stop in Athy every week, could count with one had the number of days it arrived at proper scheduled time not the one on paper which IE produced. Yes your read 25 as correct, should be a schedule for 95 minutes not 115 minutes.

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Unread 17-10-2015, 18:43   #2
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While very late in the current timetable cycle to complain considering a new one is on the way, IE seem'ed to have made a poor scheduling judgment on these services.

Not a regular users of the 17.35 service as it's more popular for people only traveling towards Kilkenny over others but have taken it over the last few weeks at times and scheduling is really bad.

17.30 - Galway (Nass 17.47/48), (Newbridge 17.55/56)
17.35 - Waterford (Nass 17.53/54), (Kildare 18.06/18.07)

The 17.35 either departs 2-3 minutes late, crawls until Clondalkin shows more less all Orange/Red Signals once you leave station yard, crawls and/or stops for 1-2 minutes outside Nass, crawls from East Newbridge until around the Curragh not much point in speeding up if your are stopping in Kildare.

So what is the issue with the 17.30 the scheduling is generous to Nass for it and there is nothing holding it up...

Up to 40-45 minutes to Kildare on the 17.35 service while it's perfectly doable in 27-28 minutes with 1 stop + Kildare.

Biggest issue is it often still manages to arrive in Waterford +4 ahead of schedule even carrying a 8 minute delay departing Carlow....

There is no reason why next timetable all Waterford (via KK) services are not block scheduled for 2 hours and express 1h45m. The playing it safe timetabling is getting boring, if IE actually played it safe with routes to Galway/Limerick Waterford services would have a decent schedule as every single morning they are held up because of late Galway/Limerick services.

07.50 can take up to 25 minutes to complete a journey of around 17/18 minutes to Kildare but of course it arrives in Heuston more less on time. Just one example!

The new 16.15 alleged express has a schedule for 25 minutes stop in Athy every week, could count with one had the number of days it arrived at proper scheduled time not the one on paper which IE produced. Yes your read 25 as correct, should be a schedule for 95 minutes not 115 minutes.
The 17:35 is scheduled at 31mins to Kildare which is not unreasonable for a 1 stop service; the 1725 is scheduled at 27mins non-stop.
In my experience, the 1735 runs smoothly and on-time. Perhaps something else caused the slowness you experienced.

40-45 mins to Kildare is typical of all-stop services.
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Unread 17-10-2015, 20:18   #3
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The 17:35 is scheduled at 31mins to Kildare which is not unreasonable for a 1 stop service; the 1725 is scheduled at 27mins non-stop.
In my experience, the 1735 runs smoothly and on-time. Perhaps something else caused the slowness you experienced.

40-45 mins to Kildare is typical of all-stop services.
I agree around 30 minutes does seem to be normal however it's possible and services do operate with 1 stop between Kildare-Dublin in 28 minutes or less while non stop into Kildare is possible to be done in 25 minutes with current speeds.

17.30 to Galway seem's to be +3/4 minutes departing Nass as it causes the problem, the 17.35 which is scheduled to arrive/depart at 17.52/17.53 but 17.56/7 seem's to be the norm the last few times I used it.

Now its no big deal but there should be no delays as the time is very doable.
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Unread 17-10-2015, 20:42   #4
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Cork trains normally pass through Kildare 25 or 26 mins past the hour and they are all non-stop. So 27 mins for the 1725 is not unrealistic nor is 31 for the 1735. Either way, the non-stop/1 stop trains are reasonably quick for a 31 mile run ( that's 3.5 times the speed of a DART 68mph vs 20mph)
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Cork trains normally pass through Kildare 25 or 26 mins past the hour and they are all non-stop. So 27 mins for the 1725 is not unrealistic nor is 31 for the 1735. Either way, the non-stop/1 stop trains are reasonably quick for a 31 mile run ( that's 3.5 times the speed of a DART 68mph vs 20mph)
I agree it's normal but for example the 07.35/10.15 out of Heuston do it in 26 while the 18.05 out of Waterford on Sundays can do Kildare-Newbrige-Dublin in 25/6 minutes. Cork trains can and do push passing Kildare in 23-25 minutes.

What I am saying for the 17.35 is it's taking closer to 35 minutes because of the 17.30 which has no traffic ahead to be delayed and no valid reasons for additional time required to Nass.
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