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Unread 12-03-2008, 12:17   #1
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On a separate note, noticed with whatever work is going on in Pearse they seem to have a temporary covering on the platform, through which it's quite difficult to see the yellow painted line you're supposed to stand behind. Is this a safety issue?
No - you just use common sense, and don't stand near the edge.

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Unread 12-03-2008, 12:38   #2
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No - you just use common sense, and don't stand near the edge.

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There may be issues with those who have visual impairments though.

I'm not an expert on the accessibility field but I would have thought that the bright yellow line was a requirement.
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Unread 12-03-2008, 16:46   #3
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No - you just use common sense, and don't stand near the edge.

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I'm presuming the yellow line isn't just for decoration. If it's there for a reason, I'm presuming that reason is safety related. Therefore, if it's not visible, I'm wondering if it's a safety issue.
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Unread 12-03-2008, 16:54   #4
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Yellow line exists to clearly show you where is safe and where is not. if you stand on the safe side you won't be struck by an old fashioned door swinging open nor should you be sucked out by a passing train. It is an essential for those of limited sight, upgraded stations have a tactile finish on the yellow line again to assist those of limited or no sight.

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There is no place for smart comments with respect to safety
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Unread 12-03-2008, 21:47   #5
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Yellow line exists to clearly show you where is safe and where is not. if you stand on the safe side you won't be struck by an old fashioned door swinging open nor should you be sucked out by a passing train. It is an essential for those of limited sight, upgraded stations have a tactile finish on the yellow line again to assist those of limited or no sight.


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Neither of those conditions apply at Pearse. All trains (normally - today excepted) stop, or run throgh at slow speed. No slam door stock operates through the station.

Yellow lines were originally put in on high speed lines where there was potential for situation 1. Now they are there to cover management backsides from ambulance chasing lawyers. Just out of interest, how many such incidents have taken place at Pearse in the 140+ years of operation?

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Unread 12-03-2008, 23:49   #6
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Slam door trains still use Pearse on a routine basis, 36 in December last

Safety is the first concern of everyone the yellow line is there for everyones safety obey it

Failure to provide a clear yellow line leaves already at risk groups in society at increased risk
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Neither of those conditions apply at Pearse. All trains (normally - today excepted) stop, or run throgh at slow speed. No slam door stock operates through the station.

Yellow lines were originally put in on high speed lines where there was potential for situation 1. Now they are there to cover management backsides from ambulance chasing lawyers. Just out of interest, how many such incidents have taken place at Pearse in the 140+ years of operation?

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God be with the days....

You are 100% right, afaik, if you are visially impaired then it dont matter if the line is yellow, green, pink or white. You cant see it.

New station rebuilds have dimples to indicate it, but I dont know what the story is with Pearse. The yellow lines (yawn warning) are there as they are part of the technical specs for every station (warned you)

As for getting sucked in.... remember the lads getting sucked under a train in Leixlip as they strolled along?
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Unread 13-03-2008, 19:36   #8
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Yellow lines have an extra use. If you are behind the yellow line, then the driver can make a slightly faster approach, meaning we all get there a little bit quicker.

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If you are behind the yellow line, then the driver can make a slightly faster approach, meaning we all get there a little bit quicker.
Agreed.
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In Donabate the yellow line serves to provide a channel up which people can walk, between the line and the edge, as the platform is too crowded to walk along behind it.

But let's be honest. Even if everyone is standing behind the yellow line as the train approaches, as soon as it enters the station, everyone is crossing the line to get to the door first to get a seat / a flat surface to lean against.
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Unread 26-03-2008, 23:49   #11
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You are 100% right, afaik, if you are visially impaired then it dont matter if the line is yellow, green, pink or white. You cant see it.
visual impairments vary widely n their severity - from complete lack of vision to someone who can't read as well with out their spectacles. The yellow line should be there to assist customers who need it due to their poor eyesight.
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Unread 23-06-2008, 13:08   #12
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I noticed they repainted the yellow + white lines on the temporary platform coverings at Pearse last week.
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Unread 24-06-2008, 14:42   #13
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But let's be honest. Even if everyone is standing behind the yellow line as the train approaches, as soon as it enters the station, everyone is crossing the line to get to the door first to get a seat / a flat surface to lean against.
There is a big difference between striking / being struck by the side of a train and the front of a train.
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