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Mark Gleeson · 04-09-2006, 15:43

Standing is a fact of life no amount of playing with the timetable will solve that, thats physical lack of coaches problem and the coaches used are designed for standing. Overcrowding going south has not reached even close to what the Maynooth line is like, which is verging on dangerous, they are first in the queue for extra services and rightly so

If you move the 16:57 back you lose a connection in from Maynooth and you piss off a large number of people on that train, assuming the 17:10 (17:14 is a no go since it comes from Connolly leaves northside out) then got to Greystones it would leave at 18:18 arrive Bray 18:28 and get in the way of the 17:44 from Pearse which is meant to be in Greystones for 18:35, it get delayed by 3 minutes plus the time the Gorey train was late into Greystones its a house of cards, everything falls down one extra train to Greystones means a need an extra driver, possibly another set of coaches neither are available

Simplest solution would be to kill the DART service to Greystones and stick on a railcar to shuttle back and forwards every 30 minutes that neatly avoids the problems, delays and provides a better service level for less money, you can have two trains going in the same direction at a time so the Gorey/Rosslare services can slip in behind the shuttle service. Greystones should never have been put on the DART it was a waste of money, its a liability in cost and operational terms, the service collapsed once it went live and it was extermely painful, it was a cynical election stunt by Michael Lowry, FG lost the seat anyway, same money would have put Skerries (in % population terms the busiest station already) on the DART and packed it to the roof

There will be an extra service into Dublin ( to Maynooth most likely) in the morning getting in roughly 7:45-8am in the medium term however thats speculation really (would mean one less DART service from Greystones as well), going back if there is an extra morning train there will be an extra evening train best guess is just after 9pm. In % terms Irish Rail are short more coaches than Dublin Bus are short buses, we already know Irish Rail won't be able to match there commitments in services so what is already promised is not coming anything above the baseline offering is off

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Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	Standing is a fact of life no amount of playing with the timetable will solve that, thats physical lack of coaches problem and the coaches used are designed for standing. Overcrowding going south has not reached even close to what the Maynooth line is like, which is verging on dangerous, they are first in the queue for extra services and rightly so If you move the 16:57 back you lose a connection in from Maynooth and you piss off a large number of people on that train, assuming the 17:10 (17:14 is a no go since it comes from Connolly leaves northside out) then got to Greystones it would leave at 18:18 arrive Bray 18:28 and get in the way of the 17:44 from Pearse which is meant to be in Greystones for 18:35, it get delayed by 3 minutes plus the time the Gorey train was late into Greystones its a house of cards, everything falls down one extra train to Greystones means a need an extra driver, possibly another set of coaches neither are available Simplest solution would be to kill the DART service to Greystones and stick on a railcar to shuttle back and forwards every 30 minutes that neatly avoids the problems, delays and provides a better service level for less money, you can have two trains going in the same direction at a time so the Gorey/Rosslare services can slip in behind the shuttle service. Greystones should never have been put on the DART it was a waste of money, its a liability in cost and operational terms, the service collapsed once it went live and it was extermely painful, it was a cynical election stunt by Michael Lowry, FG lost the seat anyway, same money would have put Skerries (in % population terms the busiest station already) on the DART and packed it to the roof There will be an extra service into Dublin ( to Maynooth most likely) in the morning getting in roughly 7:45-8am in the medium term however thats speculation really (would mean one less DART service from Greystones as well), going back if there is an extra morning train there will be an extra evening train best guess is just after 9pm. In % terms Irish Rail are short more coaches than Dublin Bus are short buses, we already know Irish Rail won't be able to match there commitments in services so what is already promised is not coming anything above the baseline offering is off Last edited by Mark Gleeson : 04-09-2006 at 15:47.