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Unread 19-05-2008, 10:34   #1
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Default [article]Iarnród Éireann admits journey times are longer

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Iarnród Éireann admits journey times are longer

By Paul Kelly, Consumer Correspondent
TRAINS were faster in the 1970’s than services are today despite billions of euro being spent on upgrading the rail network.


Timetables from 1974 and 1993 show journey times are now longer between principal destinations like Dublin, Cork, Waterford, and Sligo.

Fifteen years ago, the fastest train between Dublin and Cork completed the journey in two hours and 20 minutes, yet today the swiftest service takes two hours 45 minutes. In 1974, passengers could board the 6pm train at Dublin Heuston and arrive at Waterford at 8.15pm, yet today the journey time has increased by eight minutes.


And the service between Dublin and Sligo takes three minutes longer despite new track, upgraded signalling and faster trains. Consumer campaigners have called on Iarnród Éireann to explain why journeys were taking longer despite billions of euro of investment. “It is amazing that journey times should take longer today than in the 1970s,” said James Doorley of the Consumers’ Association of Ireland.

“The roads and planes are getting quicker so making journey times longer does not seem to make an awful lot of sense.” Yesterday, railway campaigners said Iarnród Éireann had spent €1 billion upgrading the network since the late 1990s, yet trains were as slow as ever.

“They’ve spent a billion making the railways clean, safe and reliable, yet the trains are not getting faster,” said Mark Gleeson from the Rail Users Ireland action group. “But the roads are getting faster every day and if the train is getting slower then there’s less reason [for the Government] to invest in the railways.” The Government has earmarked €5.5bn for rail under its Transport 21 plan. Iarnród Éireann said journey times had lengthened as the country’s 960-kilometre rail network accommodated more trains and higher numbers of passengers. “

We have spent money improving frequency of services as well as reliability, which is what passengers told us they wanted,” said spokesman Barry Kenny. “Our time today of two hours 45 minutes between Cork and Dublin beats road hands down.”
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By Paul Kelly, Consumer Correspondent
IARNRÓD ÉIREANN has been accused of failing passengers after admitting journey times have got longer despite billions of euro being spent on the railways.


Since the 1990s, Irish Rail has spent €1 billion upgrading track, signalling and fencing while the Government is planning to spend €5.5bn on further improvements before 2017.

Yet a comparison of this year’s train timetables with those from 1974, 1993 and 1994, reveals journeys on the same routes are taking longer today than a generation ago:


nIn 1993, the fastest time between Dublin and Cork in both directions was two hours 20 minutes on Sundays and two hours 30 minutes on weekdays. Today, despite a more powerful locomotive with an improved top-speed of 160 kilometres per hour, the quickest journey is two hours 45 minutes, or 15 minutes longer.

nIn 1974, the journey from Dublin Heuston to Waterford’s Plunkett Station each way took two hours 15 minutes with 12 stops in between. Today, the fastest journey on the same route takes two hours 23 minutes yet the service only calls at six stations on the way.

nIn the early 1970s, passengers travelling from Dublin Connolly to Sligo could make the journey in three hours flat. Yet today, the best time is three hours three minutes, despite new Intercity railcars, new track layout and new signalling.

nIn 1994, the 8.20am Limerick to Dublin service took two hours five minutes. Today, the 7.35am takes 15 minutes longer despite a powerful 160kph locomotive.

Last night the Rail Users Ireland (RUI) pressure group said Iarnród Éireann had to concentrate on improving journey times.

“Passenger numbers are up but that’s because people have no choice other than to go by train,” said RUI spokesman Mark Gleeson.

“Irish Rail has spent €1bn to make the network safe and reliable, but there has been no investment to beef things up. The roads are now getting faster, but if the trains don’t get faster then we’ll get into a vicious circle of declining passenger numbers and less investment.”

Irish Rail had only just got around to tackling track problems at Portarlington, Co Laois, after trains were forced to travel there at just 48kph for the past 12 years, he said.

Iarnród Éireann’s journey times also look poor when compared with those in Britain, where rail services have long been considered neglected and underfunded. The 162-kilometre trip from Dublin to Waterford takes two hours 23 minutes, yet passengers can travel 372 kilometres from London to Darlington in northeast England in two hours 30 minutes.

Iarnród Éireann spokesman Barry Kenny insisted journey times would improve in future, saying investment in services was increasing passengers.

“If you look at timetables today we operate a lot more Intercity and suburban services and that congestion, for want of a better term, has to be factored in,” he said. “We also have an allowance for improvement works, which will have an impact because trains will go slower.”
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Sligo timetable 1973/1974 is available

http://www.railusers.ie/images/timet...o-Dub-1973.jpg
http://www.railusers.ie/images/timet...Sligo-1973.jpg

For the record Thurles Dublin with one stop was 88 minutes back then, best Irish Rail can do today is 89 minutes non stop, in 1993 its was 73 minutes
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Some of the comparisons are unfair to IE: the Examiner contrasts London-Darlington with Dublin-Waterford: to anyone who knows anything about railways, the WCML in the UK cannot be compared with anything in Ireland, especially a route which is largely over single track. Also the Sligo line now has 8 trains each way compered with 3 until quire recently: this means much more crossing at loops, which does not come without a time penalty.

On the other hand, some of the times on the Dublin-Cork line are quite inexcusable when compared with the situation 20 years ago.
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If Irish Rail want to claim fares are euro standard we can expect a euro standard service

Sligo line has two tracks to Maynooth now, not Clonsilla and has electronic signaling which saves at least a minute at every crossing point

Bear in mind the permitted line speeds on every route have increased over the last 15 years

I was traveling on a secondary route in the UK earlier this month, we hit 117 mph and cruised steadily at 100mph, you wont find any route in Ireland where you get to do more than 15 miles at 100mph
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I know that we have more modern signalling, ctc etc., but given the buttervant rail disaster in 1980 was it a good idea to compare rail times and speeds to the 1970s?
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Buttervant has nothing to do with speed, or the driving of the train, the speed limits imposed afterwards applied solely to timber bodied coaches. The 1973 times relate to the 'supertrain' timetable operated by the trusty re engined A class locomotives and steel Mk2d coaches

The entire Mk3 and Mk4 fleet are designed for 125 mph operation

Curiously things got even faster in the late 1980's after the accidents as the Mk3 coaches appeared and 90mph was approved

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