Change to Credit/Debit Usage at Luas Ticket Machines

[Colm Donoghue]

Originally Posted by tralph

Yes, should not be much of a problem. TFL did it for chip/PIN rollout without hassle.

Every retailer in the country managed... maybe the rpa were too busy explaining why 30m trams on the red line were good enough, or maybe they signed an amazingly bad contract with veolia that it makes sense to not accept payment instead of upgrading the machines....

[CSL]

what, are we looking for simple solutions ?

1. Register your card
2. Buy the top-up online
3. Next tag-on, card value increases by whatever it was [ €100 or whatever ]

Job's a horse.

[Thomas Ralph]

Originally Posted by CSL

what, are we looking for simple solutions ?

1. Register your card
2. Buy the top-up online
3. Next tag-on, card value increases by whatever it was [ €100 or whatever ]

Job's a horse.

That would work but would be even easier to generate card fraud with. The current method requires the physical card, that method would allow purchases with just the card number.

[Laois Commuter]

Also doesn't cover season tickets.

LC

[eoin]

Originally Posted by Laois Commuter

Also doesn't cover season tickets.

LC

It would if Smartcards were capped to weekly/monthly rates, like Oyster. Though I'm in fantasyland imagining that could ever happen.

[CSL]

That would work but would be even easier to generate card fraud with. The current method requires the physical card, that method would allow purchases with just the card number

No it wouldn't !

I'm talking about tagging-on, not spending cash ?
Or maybe I have it wrong, give a step-by-step please.

As for season tickets, the smartcard is a stored value so whatever system's in place now seems to be OK

I'm only talking strictly about replenishing cash into [ not out of ] a smartcard

to defraud this system as far as I can see

1: Steal Visa Card
2: Steal smartcard
3: Top Up Smartcard online
4: take lots of train journeys
5: repeat

above only works until cards reported lost.

[Mark Gleeson]

Obviously you need to report the smartcard as stolen, another great feature of the smart card is instantly block the card avoiding the current mess

RPA/Veoila can then decide simply disable the card or arrange a trap to catch the person since of course you can look at the pattern of use

Unlike IE RPA don't offer tickets through ticket master

Of course Irish Rail are still taking cards for everything, we haven't heard anything

[Thomas Ralph]

Originally Posted by eoin

It would if Smartcards were capped to weekly/monthly rates, like Oyster. Though I'm in fantasyland imagining that could ever happen.

You're in fantasyland imagining it happens with Oyster, bud. Oyster has daily capping (and at a discount to the paper ticket price) but weekly, monthly and longer tickets have to be bought normally and are loaded onto the card, separately from the prepaid ticket value.

[Terrontress]

Originally Posted by tralph

That would work but would be even easier to generate card fraud with. The current method requires the physical card, that method would allow purchases with just the card number.

It seems to work fine on eazypass.