Councillor wants 'special understanding' for rural drink-drivers

GavinG · 09-01-2006, 00:58

Unreal. This muppet beggars belief !

dermo88 · 09-01-2006, 02:30

The entire debate regarding pubs merely reflects the sheer lack of alterbative pastimes and social outlets in much of Ireland. The high prices charged by Pubs are also a three way conundrum, with three groups of pigs scoffing at a very lucrative trough.

1. The state. Given a guaranteed revenue stream through high excise duties. The Irish state is even more addicted to alcohol than the Irish public. Some 10% of Irish Government revenue comes from VAT and Excise duty on liquor.

In such an environment, it is not in their interests to act in the interests of the Irish people. It is not in their interests to take care of their health and take measures to reduce alcohol consumption, or switch consumption patterns in Pubs, Nightclubs and restaurants.

2. The Breweries. High excise duties ensure that we have poor quality beer from three main suppliers. Take Smithwicks for example. Its vile. Budweiser. I would'nt feed it to a dog. These are effectively a cartel in a small open economy like Ireland. A publican gets supplied by Beamish, Diageo or Murphys. You try anything else.....good luck, you don't get supplied.

3. The publicans. The VFI are a cartel. It cannot be proven. Its like the third secret of Fatima, we all know its there, but its existence cannot be proven.

There is no doubt that Ireland has an unhealthy attitude to alcohol. England however, is even worse. Ireland is taking proactive measures to change attitudes, which will take a few years to manifest themselves. The smoking ban was a good start. From personal experience the addiction to alcohol and tobacco go hand in hand. They go well together. Nothing quite like it.

And I can knock back the sauce quite a bit. I hope I know how to handle it most of the time.

Mark Gleeson · 09-01-2006, 09:13

I think now folks can understand the difficulty we have dealing with local politcans when you have to deal with totally certifiable headcases such as this guy. Have a look at the stats it country drivers who are most likely to end up in a ditch or wrapped around a telephone poll at 2am

Surely promotion or support of an illegal activity should be an offence in its self

CSL · 09-01-2006, 14:11

There's a pub between Monasterevin and Athy [ can't remember the name ] that does do a minibus run all night for customers. Great idea.

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09-01-2006, 00:58	#1
GavinG Regular Poster Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Sligo Posts: 53	Unreal. This muppet beggars belief !

09-01-2006, 02:30	#2
dermo88 Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 136	The entire debate regarding pubs merely reflects the sheer lack of alterbative pastimes and social outlets in much of Ireland. The high prices charged by Pubs are also a three way conundrum, with three groups of pigs scoffing at a very lucrative trough. 1. The state. Given a guaranteed revenue stream through high excise duties. The Irish state is even more addicted to alcohol than the Irish public. Some 10% of Irish Government revenue comes from VAT and Excise duty on liquor. In such an environment, it is not in their interests to act in the interests of the Irish people. It is not in their interests to take care of their health and take measures to reduce alcohol consumption, or switch consumption patterns in Pubs, Nightclubs and restaurants. 2. The Breweries. High excise duties ensure that we have poor quality beer from three main suppliers. Take Smithwicks for example. Its vile. Budweiser. I would'nt feed it to a dog. These are effectively a cartel in a small open economy like Ireland. A publican gets supplied by Beamish, Diageo or Murphys. You try anything else.....good luck, you don't get supplied. 3. The publicans. The VFI are a cartel. It cannot be proven. Its like the third secret of Fatima, we all know its there, but its existence cannot be proven. There is no doubt that Ireland has an unhealthy attitude to alcohol. England however, is even worse. Ireland is taking proactive measures to change attitudes, which will take a few years to manifest themselves. The smoking ban was a good start. From personal experience the addiction to alcohol and tobacco go hand in hand. They go well together. Nothing quite like it. And I can knock back the sauce quite a bit. I hope I know how to handle it most of the time.

09-01-2006, 09:13	#3
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	I think now folks can understand the difficulty we have dealing with local politcans when you have to deal with totally certifiable headcases such as this guy. Have a look at the stats it country drivers who are most likely to end up in a ditch or wrapped around a telephone poll at 2am Surely promotion or support of an illegal activity should be an offence in its self

09-01-2006, 14:11	#4
CSL Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 378	There's a pub between Monasterevin and Athy [ can't remember the name ] that does do a minibus run all night for customers. Great idea.