Athy......

Thomas J Stamp · 19-04-2006, 11:59

".......is surprisingly close to the M50"

Yep, according to an ad on the radio heard on Monday for a new housing development "in the heart of Athy".

They also throw in the LUAS for some reason.

I. am. not. joking.

And "has a mainline rail connection to the heart of the city"

What next, Thomastown? Surprisingly close to the Hanging Gardens of Babylon, adjacent to The Acropolis.

And, according to IE, within "line of Sight" of Metro North!

Kevin K Kelehan · 19-04-2006, 15:29

Rail for Virginia to connect with the Department of the Marine Ulster Ships canal

Mark Gleeson · 20-04-2006, 12:18

To be honest if I was running the show I would withdraw all commuter services travelling more than 50 miles and refuse to increase services to very distant locations beyond the agreed iintercity increases

The fact IE keep adding more and more long distance commuter services just makes things worse, it horribly inefficient and is just encouraging the sprawl and is heavily restricting the service to the core commuter area, in the time it takes to do Thurles Dublin a commuter train can manage Dublin Newbridge Dublin and carry way more people

James Shields · 21-04-2006, 14:00

Good point Mark. What are the current limits of the commuter network? On the Northern line, Dundalk would be just about within the 50-mile limit (Drogheda is at MP31).

I would guess Longford on the Sligo line would also be about 50 miles.

What seems to have happened on some routes is the existing routes have been extended without any increase in frequency, resulting in greater overcrowding and longer standing times.

On the other hand, IE aren't causing urban sprawl, just doing their best to cope with the situation that has been allowed to arise.

Mark Gleeson · 21-04-2006, 14:11

Dublin is an interesting spot if you look at how its laid out

Kildare, Wicklow, Navan and Drogheda are all 30 ish miles
Mullingar, Portlaoise, Arklow and Dundalk are 50 miles out

Longford is 76 miles out yet people commute as they do from Athlone

Its a no win scenario but the train service promotes the sale of houses, and you can't do a 29000 crush load routine from Longford but you can from Ballbriggan, put simply you can move 4 times as many on short distance services as 1 long distance service for the same resources

I cant wait till the first complaint comes in from a commuter from Thurles, Deeply buried in the contracts where I work there is a stipulation that you will live not more than 30 miles away, a blind eye is turned to towns on the border line

AZ1 · 21-04-2006, 15:26

Would Athy itself - the title of this thread - make it into "Commuter" category, at 39 miles out?

19-04-2006, 11:59	#1
Thomas J Stamp Chairman/Publicity Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: The Home of Hurling Posts: 2,708	Athy...... ".......is surprisingly close to the M50" Yep, according to an ad on the radio heard on Monday for a new housing development "in the heart of Athy". They also throw in the LUAS for some reason. I. am. not. joking. And "has a mainline rail connection to the heart of the city" What next, Thomastown? Surprisingly close to the Hanging Gardens of Babylon, adjacent to The Acropolis. And, according to IE, within "line of Sight" of Metro North!

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19-04-2006, 15:29	#2
Kevin K Kelehan Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: West Tower Posts: 355	Rail for Virginia to connect with the Department of the Marine Ulster Ships canal

20-04-2006, 12:18	#3
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	To be honest if I was running the show I would withdraw all commuter services travelling more than 50 miles and refuse to increase services to very distant locations beyond the agreed iintercity increases The fact IE keep adding more and more long distance commuter services just makes things worse, it horribly inefficient and is just encouraging the sprawl and is heavily restricting the service to the core commuter area, in the time it takes to do Thurles Dublin a commuter train can manage Dublin Newbridge Dublin and carry way more people

21-04-2006, 14:00	#4
James Shields Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Drogheda, Ireland Posts: 1,275	Good point Mark. What are the current limits of the commuter network? On the Northern line, Dundalk would be just about within the 50-mile limit (Drogheda is at MP31). I would guess Longford on the Sligo line would also be about 50 miles. What seems to have happened on some routes is the existing routes have been extended without any increase in frequency, resulting in greater overcrowding and longer standing times. On the other hand, IE aren't causing urban sprawl, just doing their best to cope with the situation that has been allowed to arise.

21-04-2006, 14:11	#5
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	Dublin is an interesting spot if you look at how its laid out Kildare, Wicklow, Navan and Drogheda are all 30 ish miles Mullingar, Portlaoise, Arklow and Dundalk are 50 miles out Longford is 76 miles out yet people commute as they do from Athlone Its a no win scenario but the train service promotes the sale of houses, and you can't do a 29000 crush load routine from Longford but you can from Ballbriggan, put simply you can move 4 times as many on short distance services as 1 long distance service for the same resources I cant wait till the first complaint comes in from a commuter from Thurles, Deeply buried in the contracts where I work there is a stipulation that you will live not more than 30 miles away, a blind eye is turned to towns on the border line

21-04-2006, 15:26	#6
AZ1 Regular Poster Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 31	Would Athy itself - the title of this thread - make it into "Commuter" category, at 39 miles out?