Irish rail projects

Ireland trains · 12-08-2018, 22:09

Thank you for the answer
They limerick junction question inmeant was
Down line _______________________
Up line _______________________
Loop line -- _______________--
Platform ■■■■■■■
Will the new platform be beside the down line with 3 tracks between the 2 platforms (like kildare i think)

Platform ■■■■■■■■■■■
Down line ___________________________
Up line ___________________________
Loop line --_____________________--
Platform ■■■■■■■■■■
or will they get rid of the down line and put a platform in its place

Platform _____ ■■■■■■■■ ______
New down line __ --___________________--____
New up line --_____________--
Platform ■■■■■■

Jamie2k9 · 12-08-2018, 22:29

Limerick J will be like Kildare and have 3 running lines between both platforms (loop up), (up fast) and (down fast). Access to the current main platform will be maintained after the new one is added and like Mallow when possible up/down will be via the loop to ease connections.
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The proposed relocated Waterford (Plunkett) station would be a few hundred metres along the South Wexford (Wellingtonbridge/Rosslare) line east of the current station.

As there is already some "padding" in the timetable (charter minutes as they were termed some years ago in the UK) particularly southbound to Waterford from Thomastown there is no reason journey times on the Dublin line should increase (they shouldn't increase on the South Tipp line either). The approach to Waterford however is rather slow and perhaps this can be looked at as part of the overall project.

On the assumption there will be a new CTC signalling system, there would be no justification for longer journey times and 50 mph + should be allowed towards Waterford West with complete relay but knowing Irish Rail I wouldn't put an extra few minutes past them.

ACustomer · 13-08-2018, 09:51

I hope Dublin-Limerick passengers the appreciate the haul up and over the running lines from the new platform to the Limerick connection, which will replace the present easy cross-platform connection. A couple of wheelchair-confined passengers will ensure that the interval between arrival of the down Cork and departure of the connection to Limerick will take much longer than at present.

As for Waterford, any new station will not be as close to the bridge so that's one inconvenience. Given that passenger trains will have to run along the present through road (deemed unsafe since the rockfall), why not spend some money on additional rockfall protection and leave the station where it is? Use the savings to automate a few more level crossings and save on operational costs.

Irish Rail projects may be well-engineered, but are often hopelessly inappropriate.

Jamie2k9 · 13-08-2018, 11:37

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As for Waterford, any new station will not be as close to the bridge so that's one inconvenience. Given that passenger trains will have to run along the present through road (deemed unsafe since the rockfall), why not spend some money on additional rockfall protection and leave the station where it is? Use the savings to automate a few more level crossings and save on operational costs.

Irish Rail projects may be well-engineered, but are often hopelessly inappropriate.

As part of the relocation, 12 million will be spent on the rock face. The project is not anything to do with Irish Rail (no funding/design) but they support it. The plan is Goverment are giving around 20 million towards it and most will be on the rock with the remaining costs funded by developer.

The location is opposite the bus station via a pedestrian/bus only bridge and of course new road access in Ferrybank. We shall see what movement there will be next year as An Bord Pleanala cleared the SDZ back in June to allow final planning take place.

One could argue why the 12 million cannot be spent now and return main platform into use in the meantime.

ACustomer · 13-08-2018, 18:55

I assume that the cost of the new Bus/pedestrian bridge is in addition to the €20m you mention. Given the breadth and depth of the River Suir at that point you are talking something nearer to €100m than €20m.

Value for money???

Jamie2k9 · 13-08-2018, 23:33

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Originally Posted by ACustomer

I assume that the cost of the new Bus/pedestrian bridge is in addition to the €20m you mention. Given the breadth and depth of the River Suir at that point you are talking something nearer to €100m than €20m.

Value for money???

Goverment only paying 60 million towards infrastructure. If it all comes off it will be excellent value for money and a true transport hub.

See Details:
http://www.waterfordcouncil.ie/water...ssdz/index.htm

ACustomer · 03-07-2019, 16:00

I just saw the new platform at Limerick Junction yesterday: virtually no sign of anyone working on site, apart from a digger which was probably clearing the rubble form the demolished engine shed.

The new platform is very exposed to the elements: I hope that Irish Rail do a better job at sheltering waiting passengers than they do on the Cork suburban or the recently renovated Limerick platforms.

Any firm estimate of the commissioning date for the new Limerick Jcn platform? Irish Rail seem to take ages to do some simple projects.

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12-08-2018, 22:09	#1
Ireland trains New to the board Join Date: Mar 2018 Posts: 26	Thank you for the answer They limerick junction question inmeant was Down line _______________________ Up line _______________________ Loop line -- _______________-- Platform ■■■■■■■ Will the new platform be beside the down line with 3 tracks between the 2 platforms (like kildare i think) Platform ■■■■■■■■■■■ Down line ___________________________ Up line ___________________________ Loop line --_____________________-- Platform ■■■■■■■■■■ or will they get rid of the down line and put a platform in its place Platform _____ ■■■■■■■■ ______ New down line __ --___________________--____ New up line --_____________-- Platform ■■■■■■

13-08-2018, 09:51	#3
ACustomer Really Regular Poster Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 767	I hope Dublin-Limerick passengers the appreciate the haul up and over the running lines from the new platform to the Limerick connection, which will replace the present easy cross-platform connection. A couple of wheelchair-confined passengers will ensure that the interval between arrival of the down Cork and departure of the connection to Limerick will take much longer than at present. As for Waterford, any new station will not be as close to the bridge so that's one inconvenience. Given that passenger trains will have to run along the present through road (deemed unsafe since the rockfall), why not spend some money on additional rockfall protection and leave the station where it is? Use the savings to automate a few more level crossings and save on operational costs. Irish Rail projects may be well-engineered, but are often hopelessly inappropriate.

13-08-2018, 18:55	#5
ACustomer Really Regular Poster Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 767	I assume that the cost of the new Bus/pedestrian bridge is in addition to the €20m you mention. Given the breadth and depth of the River Suir at that point you are talking something nearer to €100m than €20m. Value for money???

03-07-2019, 16:00	#7
ACustomer Really Regular Poster Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 767	I just saw the new platform at Limerick Junction yesterday: virtually no sign of anyone working on site, apart from a digger which was probably clearing the rubble form the demolished engine shed. The new platform is very exposed to the elements: I hope that Irish Rail do a better job at sheltering waiting passengers than they do on the Cork suburban or the recently renovated Limerick platforms. Any firm estimate of the commissioning date for the new Limerick Jcn platform? Irish Rail seem to take ages to do some simple projects.