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17-06-2012, 21:28 | #1 |
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fiskar: what do you mean by referring to one-carriage trains being used on the line to DUnboyne and Pace? Trains are usually 2900s which means a minimum of 4 carriages or 22000s which means a minimum of three. Also the existing line can take 8 carriage trains (2900s).
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17-06-2012, 22:38 | #2 |
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Politicians are often only focused on the current election cycle.
The diesel railcars can seat 40-65 people per carriage, perhaps up to twice that standing. The 2700s are currently being withdrawn as they are the least reliable. So likely minimum train size is two carriages. http://www.irishrail.ie/index.jsp?p=123&n=210 Roughan & O’Donovan / AECOM http://www.roughanodonovan.com/proje...-Rail-line.asp have the documentation substantially progressed. Depending on external factors, primarily the economy, it might be worthwhile. In the recession, the high cost of borrowing and with the M3 in place it is unlikely to be worthwhile. If someone has €300-500 million, things can move forward. In the current environment, the best that can be hoped for is improving existing lines - signalling, level crossings, stations, etc.
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I think if there was money to build Phase 2 there would be money to refit the 27s...
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20-06-2012, 19:13 | #6 |
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Rail infrastructure such as this will the life blood of the economy going forward. You can see that in any city abroad that you visit.
The gas thing is that most motorists going to Dublin from Navan every day use the old untolled N3 to avoid the tolls and the government is using the mobile speed detecting van to try and nab them every 2nd week on the stretch into Dunshaughlin and frighten them onto the M3. That infrastructure is a pure white elephant. The rail link won't be, not the way fuel costs and congestion are going. It might be there for my retirement in 20 years! |
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We have seen the full draft railway works order
The price was over 450 million and the financial case did not stack up, given it was based on assumptions of continuing growth of population in Navan the financial case today is even worse. This is what happens when a local politician stirs things up and gives false hope If the speed camera trap is catching people thats their own fault for speeding, its not justification for a railway. The existence of the M3 was the end to any real prospect for the railway, the toll operator having a contract which guarantees there income, combine that with some suspect dealings of a sewer main and Meath CC, every day more and more costly obstacles appeared
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It's a shame, because it leaves the existing M3 Parkway spur horribly underused and looking more a white elephant every day.
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