First Train to Cork at 9:35!

comcor · 02-09-2019, 15:35

The service would have to make itself pay off those going to meetings etc. in Cork and one-off journeys as the 2016 census doesn't indicate any significant commuting to Cork from Charleville, Tipperary Town (for Limerick Junction) or Thurles by any means. There is a little from Limerick. Mallow would be the largest contributor, but it already has a decent commuter service.

With that in mind, possibly a Monday morning only service for students and workers heading back for the week is the place to start, with that giving some idea of demand.

What the census suggested was that getting the 05:55 ex Tralee to run on a Monday and to stop in Banteer on other days would be the most effective thing in terms of North Cork commuting. Numbers commuting from Killarney are decent, while Banteer, Lyre, and Kanturk and Cork add up to something significant.

dowlingm · 02-09-2019, 16:30

Big changes in the housing market since the prior Charleville trial (and that trial was only commuter not intercity from Dublin) but it’s hard to shake the “nope we tried it once and it failed end of” in some quarters.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breaki...nt-947705.html

Quote:

A working couple who are first-time buyers would need to earn between €100,000 and €125,000 to afford a new two-bed apartment in an Irish city, with the affordability gap, and housing shortage, threatening economic and employment growth.

That’s according to a report released today by economic consultants EY-DKM, which found the current cost to build a two-bed apartment in locations like Cork City, docklands, or suburbs is between €389,000 and €486,000.

To purchase, a couple would also need to have saved a cash deposit of between €39,000 and €49,000.

The current high apartment build costs mean that build-to-rent apartments would need to be rented at €2,500 a month for a two-bed, or €3,000 a month for a three-bed, to make their construction financially viable.

Even as a Monday only service an 0600 ex Dublin would allow people to defer travelling on Sunday evening services to stretch their weekend an extra evening rather than head back to Cork on the 2100 and be home at midnight.

comcor · 04-09-2019, 16:24

Figures for how many people got on trains towards Cork on 15th November from last year's heavy rail survey

Thurles: 288
Limerick Junction: 274
Charleville: 9
Mallow: 657

It may have a rubbish service towards Cork (you can't actually get to Cork til 11:40am), but Charleville certainly wouldn't be driving demand on an early service.

Having said that, the figures for Thurles and Limerick Junction aren't bad.

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02-09-2019, 15:35	#1
comcor Really Regular Poster Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Cork-Dublin, Cork Commuter and occasionally DART and Dublin-Wexford Posts: 855	The service would have to make itself pay off those going to meetings etc. in Cork and one-off journeys as the 2016 census doesn't indicate any significant commuting to Cork from Charleville, Tipperary Town (for Limerick Junction) or Thurles by any means. There is a little from Limerick. Mallow would be the largest contributor, but it already has a decent commuter service. With that in mind, possibly a Monday morning only service for students and workers heading back for the week is the place to start, with that giving some idea of demand. What the census suggested was that getting the 05:55 ex Tralee to run on a Monday and to stop in Banteer on other days would be the most effective thing in terms of North Cork commuting. Numbers commuting from Killarney are decent, while Banteer, Lyre, and Kanturk and Cork add up to something significant.

04-09-2019, 16:24	#3
comcor Really Regular Poster Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Cork-Dublin, Cork Commuter and occasionally DART and Dublin-Wexford Posts: 855	Figures for how many people got on trains towards Cork on 15th November from last year's heavy rail survey Thurles: 288 Limerick Junction: 274 Charleville: 9 Mallow: 657 It may have a rubbish service towards Cork (you can't actually get to Cork til 11:40am), but Charleville certainly wouldn't be driving demand on an early service. Having said that, the figures for Thurles and Limerick Junction aren't bad.