Intercity fares revision: New fares and fare structure from 4th February 2012

[Charlie Hungerford]

There's another curious anomaly - the 'commuter' segments of the Dublin-Cork and Dublin-Dundalk lines are counted as express for Intercity fare calculation purposes but the Dublin-Maynooth section on the Dublin-Sligo line isn't.

In addition, the mileage calculations used for the Northern line are out of whack.

Drogheda-Dublin Pearse is a distance of around 53 kilometres by rail and should be counted as a class D fare (up to 64km) not a class E fare (up to 80km).

Dundalk-Connolly is 86 kilometres by rail and should be counted as a class F fare rather than a class G one.

This has an extremely negative effect on fares from those destinations - a single from Dundalk-Connolly should be €5 cheaper if the correct mileage is used.

Unless there is a secret Northern Line premium in their figures...

[Colm Moore]

There is a strong suspicion that some station pairs use incorrect distances.

[karlr42]

RTE's take on it : "65% of train fares to increase next month"

http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/0126/trainfares.html

[Mark Gleeson]

30% go down and 5% remain the same

[karlr42]

Originally Posted by Mark Gleeson

30% go down and 5% remain the same

Doesn't make for as good a headline though.

[Mark Gleeson]

It doesn't but for a passenger the fact 30% go down is seriously good news. Indeed the bulk of the reductions are on routes where the fares are considered over priced

[Colm Moore]

http://www.irishrail.ie/cat_news.jsp?i=4465&p=116&n=237

Intercity fares revision: New fares and fare structure from 4th February 2012
26 January 2012

In December 2011, the National Transport Authority approved fare increases averaging 6% on DART and 6.7% on Commuter services, which took effect from 4th January 2012.

At that time, the NTA stated that Intercity fares would be subject to a separate decision by the National Transport Authority, which would also address some existing anomalies in fare structures.

Today (26th January 2012), the NTA has approved a fare revision for Intercity fares. The fare revision will see a new, simplified fare structure, with three basic ticket types for all Intercity routes: Single, Day Return, and Open Return. Fares will be set also according to route types: Express, Economy 1, Economy 2, reflecting the variations in speeds on the network.

In addressing these anomalies, there will be a range of impacts, with increases to some fares and reductions in others. In summary:

There are 143 fare band increases
There are 66 fare band decreases
15 fare bands remain unchanged



Where fares have been increased, the range of increase varies from 0.63% to 13.33%. The higher increases have been applied to those fares most anomalous in distance pricing, under the new model.

The range of decreases varies from -0.79% to -29.41%. Significant fares decreases were required on some fares on Galway and Rosslare services to align them with Sligo and Waterford, respectively.

For fares over €25, this is the first fares revision in over three years, since January 2009.

Iarnród Éireann welcomes the NTA’s decision to restructure fares which addresses some legacy anomalies from previous fare regulation. The approval for some increases will also enable Iarnród Éireann to maintain services following the subvention reduction announced in December’s Budget, while the company continues its focus on reducing costs.

The new fares, coupled with our continuing web promotions at www.irishrail.ie , provide a range of options for customers in a more user-friendly structure, which will be of benefit to customers into the future.

Full details of the NTA’s approval of these fare increases, with a full list of fare revisions, is available at http://www.nationaltransport.ie/news.html

[Charlie Hungerford]

Originally Posted by Colm Moore

There is a strong suspicion that some station pairs use incorrect distances.

Is there any way of making the NTA aware of this? After all, it isn't hard to calculate out the correct distances - the rather large mileposts along the routes should assist them considerably.

[Mark Gleeson]

The NTA are well aware of the strange fares and distance issue.

MVA who did the study used our investigation http://www.railusers.ie/news/news.ph...2008&no=6.html as a source document to the study.

[Destructix]

What about day saver fares for example Tue-Thur €37 before 11am Thurles-Heuston. or the Mon-Sat €18.50 day return to Limerick. Will these now be abolished?

[Colm Moore]

Not necessarily. Irish Rail are still allowed do discounts and promotional fares, so some of them will stay.

However, hopefully some of the worst abuses, e.g. different fares for each direction, will not be allowed stay.

[Destructix]

If they keep day saver return @ €18.50 to Limerick and now that 5 day return is to be abolished soon for day return, won't everybody Mon-Sat just buy the day saver. Hoping they will keep these offers anyway as I like taking the day trip to Dublin once a week and my gf lives in Limerick so i spend a lot of time going down to hers in the evenings for a few hours when i get off work. Will cost me an extra €2.30 on monthly return going to hers every weekend now that the 5 day return is to be abolished but the increase could have been much worst.