Birdhill/Nenagh/Roscrea - Dublin for All ire semi

[Mark Gleeson]

For those who know the game that plays out, the accounts for the Nenagh line next year will look absolutely appalling, this is just fattening the calf before the slaughter.

The Nenagh line would have been better off to keep a low profile and the original service, it cost less and from what I have heard actually carried more people than the current mess.

The maximum revenue take is 1828.17 EUR assuming no children. Last year the fare was significantly higher and it just about made a profit of about 200 euro, so no way can it make a profit this year.

When the day of reckoning comes this won't be forgotten, so be very careful what you wish for it could be what actually kills the route.

[doherty jack]

Originally Posted by Mark Gleeson

For those who know the game that plays out, the accounts for the Nenagh line next year will look absolutely appalling, this is just fattening the calf before the slaughter.

The Nenagh line would have been better off to keep a low profile and the original service, it cost less and from what I have heard actually carried more people than the current mess.

The maximum revenue take is 1828.17 EUR assuming no children. Last year the fare was significantly higher and it just about made a profit of about 200 euro, so no way can it make a profit this year.

When the day of reckoning comes this won't be forgotten, so be very careful what you wish for it could be what actually kills the route.

it can make a profit ,the return service is the normal service so no overtime for that .....

[jacko]

Originally Posted by doherty jack

it can make a profit ,the return service is the normal service so no overtime for that .....

good point

[Mark Gleeson]

Safety rules restrict all trains introduced since the mid 1990's to 4 coach or less at all Nenagh line stations, nothing new about that

[jacko]

http://www.tipperarystar.ie/news/loc...full-1-4173812

credit to the Nenagh Rail partnership

[dowlingm]

A service like this would be ideal for an SDO 6-car consist since there is no intermediate traffic within Tipp so the train could stop either long or short depending on which three carriages it was deemed best to fill. In some ways AK is doing a great service because stabling trains in places like Birdhill might be poohpoohed in other circumstances and now it can be said "look lads, ye did it before in Birdhill so ye need a better excuse now".

As for the questions about "why wouldn't it make money" - we went over it last time, you either believe it or you don't. Personally I doubt Nenagh branch signalmen and gate openers are doing it for charity so clearly there are costs involved. If you want something done about it then write to Dick Fearn and ask him why his trains are incapable of serving rural stations during surge conditions because of a failure to complete the tender for selective door opening, since the extra 3 carriages would be nearly pure profit excepting fuel.

[Inniskeen]

Originally Posted by jacko

http://www.tipperarystar.ie/news/loc...full-1-4173812

credit to the Nenagh Rail partnership

Fair play - great to see an active local support achieving something positive.

There was a great deal of hot air on this board about last years special - yet according to Mark it made a profit. Expect that this year's one way arrangement will do likewise, otherwise somebody had better buy Irish Rail a calculator. No reason for an operation like this to run at a loss.

[Jamie2k9]

There was a great deal of hot air on this board about last years special - yet according to Mark it made a profit. Expect that this year's one way arrangement will do likewise, otherwise somebody had better buy Irish Rail a calculator. No reason for an operation like this to run at a loss.

Last year fares per adult were €19.99 (could be wrong)
This year fares per adult were €9.99

So fares slashed 50% and you think it can make a profit? Can't see operational cost decreases but could have increased with fuel costs.