The Chinese Mahon Tribunal

Thomas J Stamp · 10-07-2007, 16:47

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/6286698.stm

He thought the Judgement was "too severe". Well, you would, wouldn't you.

dermo88 · 11-07-2007, 00:14

Living in the region, and knowing the culture, unfortunately there is no choice. Corruption is part of all societies to a degree, but the leadership in China are deeply conscious that corruption caused the disintegration of the Chinese Empire, caused the fall of the first Chinese Republic under Sun Yat Sen.

They are barely keeping a lid on things in China itself. They want to avoid Gorbachevs mistake. Give the people money, freedom will follow eventually.

As for democracy. Democracy on the western model cannot happen in China.

But by and large, its not a bad place, and its up and coming. Its just needs to be managed right. That takes a few generations.

Thomas J Stamp · 11-07-2007, 09:06

Jaysus Dermo, that's way too serious a post for the canteen

dermo88 · 11-07-2007, 19:12

Ok then, here it is .....in a more light hearted manner.

People everywhere are prone to corruption, its just how much latitude we are given.

You can have the best justice system money can buy...such as America, Malaysia or Singapore.

You can have the justice system they dictate, which is China. Now occasionally, the chinese like to make an example of the occasional official or two. A bit like Ireland. But the real fun still goes on. As long as the odd Ray Burke rolls once in a while, the peasants are kept happy and thick.

Once upon a time, China was poor. Lots of chinese emgrated. Some of them even came to Ireland, where the best of them now own restaurants and make pots of money. They help support the other lynchpin of the Irish economy....called Paddy Power. To see the consequences of relying excessively on that lynchpin, please view Dereks new video....called "Debt".

Except chinese people are not all that different to a lot of Irish people. We like drinking, they like gambling. Theres a fair few I know that suffer from the 4 curses (Drinking, Smoking, Whoring and Gambling), and when they indulge, its hectic. Work hard, play harder. But it all catches up eventually.

10-07-2007, 16:47	#1
Thomas J Stamp Chairman/Publicity Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: The Home of Hurling Posts: 2,708	The Chinese Mahon Tribunal http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/6286698.stm He thought the Judgement was "too severe". Well, you would, wouldn't you. __________________ We are the passengers

11-07-2007, 09:06	#3
Thomas J Stamp Chairman/Publicity Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: The Home of Hurling Posts: 2,708	Jaysus Dermo, that's way too serious a post for the canteen __________________ We are the passengers

11-07-2007, 19:12	#4
dermo88 Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 136	Ok then, here it is .....in a more light hearted manner. People everywhere are prone to corruption, its just how much latitude we are given. You can have the best justice system money can buy...such as America, Malaysia or Singapore. You can have the justice system they dictate, which is China. Now occasionally, the chinese like to make an example of the occasional official or two. A bit like Ireland. But the real fun still goes on. As long as the odd Ray Burke rolls once in a while, the peasants are kept happy and thick. Once upon a time, China was poor. Lots of chinese emgrated. Some of them even came to Ireland, where the best of them now own restaurants and make pots of money. They help support the other lynchpin of the Irish economy....called Paddy Power. To see the consequences of relying excessively on that lynchpin, please view Dereks new video....called "Debt". Except chinese people are not all that different to a lot of Irish people. We like drinking, they like gambling. Theres a fair few I know that suffer from the 4 curses (Drinking, Smoking, Whoring and Gambling), and when they indulge, its hectic. Work hard, play harder. But it all catches up eventually. Last edited by Thomas J Stamp : 12-07-2007 at 09:10.

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11-07-2007, 00:14	#2
dermo88 Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 136	Living in the region, and knowing the culture, unfortunately there is no choice. Corruption is part of all societies to a degree, but the leadership in China are deeply conscious that corruption caused the disintegration of the Chinese Empire, caused the fall of the first Chinese Republic under Sun Yat Sen. They are barely keeping a lid on things in China itself. They want to avoid Gorbachevs mistake. Give the people money, freedom will follow eventually. As for democracy. Democracy on the western model cannot happen in China. But by and large, its not a bad place, and its up and coming. Its just needs to be managed right. That takes a few generations.