Luas Smart Card

[PaulM]

Originally Posted by colmd

In fairness they are hiring a yesman /fallguy to get the whole thing running....

How are the payments to Dublin Bus accounted for when the luas isn't running?

Or to Bus Eireann yesterday like? from IE?

I don't know or care. All I'm concerned about is Luas. If the RPA wanted to cap the weekly spend on Smart cards so it was no more expensive than a weekly ticket, they could. They simply won't as they have to carry on this integrated ticketing charade.*


* Only a charade as it could easily be set up tomorrow if there was any political will.

[Colm Donoghue]

I meant if CIE companies accept luas tickets when there's a snafu, it shows integrated ticketing is easily possible if heads got knocked together.

The RPA are useless and lacking in vision. I've posted about the carpark response and the committee have the whole 'sher 40m trams on the red line is a mad idea. Why would we do that?'


Jim Henson should sue for trademark infringement....

[alek smart]

My understanding of the Luas/Dublin Bus arrangements are that when Luas suffers a grand mal the Control Centre notifies Dublin Bus who then notify drivers via radio ON THOSE ROUTES ADJACENT TO THE AFFECTED LINE.

Bus Atha Cliath then recieve an hourly rate lump sum to honour Luas-Only tickets.
This sum is of course pro-rata for outages of shorter duration.
The same system is also in place for DART breakdowns.

These replacement arrangements are generally smooth running,but have only been placed on a firm Accountancy footing since Luas arived.

Prior to that the Dart/Bus Atha Cliath arrangements were somewhat "flexible" with little real adherence to a payment requirement at all.

However it appears that some forensic accounting on Dublin Bus`s part identified the provision of such service capacity as one which was becoming an ever greater imposition on it`s own resources hence the adoption of the much clearer "Rate for the Job" system we now have.

[Colm Moore]

Originally Posted by alek smart

These replacement arrangements are generally smooth running,

Problems occur when the information doesn't filter down to drivers.

[James Shields]

Sorry if this is off-topic, but are Luas smart cards accepted on busses when Luas is out of operation? I assume busses have no way of checking that you have "touched in" to the system. If you have "touched in" and the bus doesn't leave you close to a Luas stop, do you have to walk to the Luas stop to "touch out"?

It's also worth noting, that you can't "touch out" at the same stop as you "touch in", so if you "touch in" and patiently wait for your tram, and then find out about a problem, you have potentially been charged the maximum fare for a journey you could not make.

[Colm Donoghue]

Lost,
I emailed the rpa before when I got a bus to stillorgan and then a taxi to stillorgan( you'll know if it happens to you and it's raining) to get my car from the car park after the luas decided not to run one friday.
They sent me a check for the price of a return ticket when I told them I had an annual DB/IE ticket

[Mark Gleeson]

Originally Posted by lostcarpark

It's also worth noting, that you can't "touch out" at the same stop as you "touch in", so if you "touch in" and patiently wait for your tram, and then find out about a problem, you have potentially been charged the maximum fare for a journey you could not make.

Well if you touch out at a different machine to the one you used it should work, it does charge you but not sure how much

[Brian Condron]

Originally Posted by Mark Gleeson

Well if you touch out at a different machine to the one you used it should work, it does charge you but not sure how much

It charges you for a journey within one zone. Decided to test it one night at 2am. I may or may not have been in a local hostelry sampling their wares before the urge to experiment came over me.