Scoping study published - insufficient funds for Navan

[philip]

Surely most public transport falls into this category of being "unviable"? Just take it out of my taxes Bertie-that's what I pay them for.

What a 'country' we live in.

[Navan Junction]

Originally Posted by philip

Surely most public transport falls into this category of being "unviable"? Just take it out of my taxes Bertie-that's what I pay them for.

Just about all of it does. Funny thing is for such a negatie headline in the report, the content isn't all that negative

[Derek Wheeler]

Originally Posted by philip

Surely most public transport falls into this category of being "unviable"? Just take it out of my taxes Bertie-that's what I pay them for.

What a 'country' we live in.

I agree Philip. But I don't believe the Government think that way.Unviable WRC got the nod. Unviable Navan may get the nod. Cork Co Co planned for nearly 30 years to get the nod. The Nenagh line is falling to pieces. Waterford - Limerick junct is the same. This Government havent a damn clue what they are doing or how they do it. There's no shape to any of the decisions.

But there's a conflict here. On one hand a new report into CIE is recommending a fresh look at phasing out subsidies. The DOT are to meet CIE companies with a list of questions. On the other hand the Government are commiting to "unviable" projects. Longterm somebody has to pick up the infrastructure cost of these projects. Fine if government accept them, but dodgy if they want out of the subvention game.

[Navan Junction]

Originally Posted by Derek Wheeler

but dodgy if they want out of the subvention game.

Phew, thanks be to God that Navan isn't in the annual subvention or economically unviable catagory

Mind you all those passengers would be really viable on the Drogheda line

[Derek Wheeler]

Originally Posted by Navan Junction

Phew, thanks be to God that Navan isn't in the annual subvention or economically unviable catagory

Mind you all those passengers would be really viable on the Drogheda line

You should get some sleep.

[Navan Junction]

Originally Posted by philip

Surely most public transport falls into this category of being "unviable"?

They do on an annualised basis in most cases too, which Navan wouldn't according to that report. Navan will be viable on an annualised running cost basis over 30 years.

The issue is build cost of €450m. But we all knew about that price tag going back how long? Years anyway.

The only funding surprise was the impotente section 49 levy scheme which in it's current format will collect next to nothing from developers along the route.

There is a similar cost to the KRP, and according to some there will be a only minor increase on passengers on that that €450m project.