EU funding announced

ocian · 26-08-2014, 15:17

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Originally Posted by Jamie2k9

2 years ago they took some sets out of service and stripped them for parts, all are back in service since and 14 is being done now.

The single coach is Laois is not for that set AFAIK, it was on another set but taken off to get new wheels which is probably not happening until its needed or they can afford it!

Cheers for the answer Jamie

. With or without the single coach hopefully they can get 22014 back into service soon and toss a 29000 off the intercity routes

Jamie2k9 · 31-08-2014, 18:03

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Originally Posted by ocian

Cheers for the answer Jamie

. With or without the single coach hopefully they can get 22014 back into service soon and toss a 29000 off the intercity routes

not going to happen, 22 PC set going North for duration of the refurbish. Suspect that why 14 is going back into use. Hopefully they will bring back a Mark IV as well for duration but other routes will probably draw the short straw as usual.

Mark Gleeson · 01-09-2014, 13:59

There will be a need at least 2 first class ICR sets for Dublin Belfast, in fact they might need to run as 5+3 config

TPWS sets do not have the Irish Rail flag logo

They will have to get another Mk4 set back in service to cover

dowlingm · 03-09-2014, 20:38

Running a Mk4 on one or more Limerick services seems to me to be worthy of a hard look. The timetable isn't ideal for locohaul but neither is pouring capacity back onto the Cork route if it can't be taken advantage of.

For Dublin-Belfast, I can only hope the 22s perform well enough that the powers that be give due regard to using them for additional rotations after the DDs return.

Mark Gleeson · 04-09-2014, 11:39

MK4 can get to Limerick, but

1. No one in Limerick is trained on them
2. Cork is the home shed for overnight maintenance
3. No train hosts in Limerick and union issues

MK4 would struggle with the start stop pattern on the Limerick timetable

Strangely a Mk4 would be ideal for Dublin Belfast, but has no clearance for NI operation

berneyarms · 04-09-2014, 12:03

I suspect that you may see an extra Mark 4 set pushed into use on Dublin-Cork to displace ICRs to allow for the Premier sets to swap over to Connolly for the Enterprise.

There's no need for Mark 4 stock to be going anywhere else.

ACustomer · 04-09-2014, 13:02

The reduced Mk4 service on the Cork line needs 3 or 4 sets. There should be in principle 8 eight-coach sets in total (67 vehicles delivered which I think include a 9th DVT and 2 other spare vehicles).

In that case why not use 3 or 4 Mk4 sets on the Enterprise and save a load of money on refurbishing the DDs? I know the Mk4s will need some cosmetic refurbishment soon and a mid-life upgrade in 5 to 10 years time.

I quite realise that it's a bit too late to ask this question now, but does management ever think outside the box?

Maybe the inferior ride quality of the Mk4s combined with the inferior track quality of the Belfast line might put people off.

01-09-2014, 13:59	#3
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	There will be a need at least 2 first class ICR sets for Dublin Belfast, in fact they might need to run as 5+3 config TPWS sets do not have the Irish Rail flag logo They will have to get another Mk4 set back in service to cover __________________ Unhappy with new timetable - let us know

04-09-2014, 11:39	#5
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	MK4 can get to Limerick, but 1. No one in Limerick is trained on them 2. Cork is the home shed for overnight maintenance 3. No train hosts in Limerick and union issues MK4 would struggle with the start stop pattern on the Limerick timetable Strangely a Mk4 would be ideal for Dublin Belfast, but has no clearance for NI operation __________________ Unhappy with new timetable - let us know

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03-09-2014, 20:38	#4
dowlingm Really Really Regluar Poster Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,371	Running a Mk4 on one or more Limerick services seems to me to be worthy of a hard look. The timetable isn't ideal for locohaul but neither is pouring capacity back onto the Cork route if it can't be taken advantage of. For Dublin-Belfast, I can only hope the 22s perform well enough that the powers that be give due regard to using them for additional rotations after the DDs return.

04-09-2014, 12:03	#6
berneyarms Really Regular Poster Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 602	I suspect that you may see an extra Mark 4 set pushed into use on Dublin-Cork to displace ICRs to allow for the Premier sets to swap over to Connolly for the Enterprise. There's no need for Mark 4 stock to be going anywhere else.

04-09-2014, 13:02	#7
ACustomer Really Regular Poster Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 767	The reduced Mk4 service on the Cork line needs 3 or 4 sets. There should be in principle 8 eight-coach sets in total (67 vehicles delivered which I think include a 9th DVT and 2 other spare vehicles). In that case why not use 3 or 4 Mk4 sets on the Enterprise and save a load of money on refurbishing the DDs? I know the Mk4s will need some cosmetic refurbishment soon and a mid-life upgrade in 5 to 10 years time. I quite realise that it's a bit too late to ask this question now, but does management ever think outside the box? Maybe the inferior ride quality of the Mk4s combined with the inferior track quality of the Belfast line might put people off.