IMPORTANT - ALL CORK SERVICES - INDUSTRIAL DISPUTE - CANCELLATIONS

Thomas J Stamp · 08-01-2008, 16:07

DUE TO UNOFFICIAL ACTION AS A RESULT OF A DISPUTE THE FOLLOWING SERVICES ARE CANCELLED:

EX CORK

1530

1630

1730 FROM MALLOW ONLY

1830

DUBLIN SERVICES RUNNING AS FOLLOWS:

15.00 TO Mallow

16.00 TO Mallow

17.00 TO Mallow

18.00 to Thurles only

19.00 20.00 21.00 ALL CANCELLED

ALL LOCAL CORK/COBH SERVICES CANCELLED.

Mark Gleeson · 08-01-2008, 16:12

This is permanent way staff not drivers

NO TRAINS what so ever Mallow - Cork - Cobh

19:00, 20:00 and 21:00 Dublin Cork cancelled no substitution. The trains and drivers are trapped in the Cork area

Last train leaving Heuston for Munster 18:35 to Thurles. 18:30 to Tralee appears to be running.

However as Tralee services depend on drivers from Cork there may be issues as the trains they drive to Mallow are gone

Limerick,Galway,Waterford,Westport,Ballina are uneffected

comcor · 08-01-2008, 16:24

Any idea if this will be a problem on Thursday?

Seeing that the required notice period for a strike has not been given, it's about time that Irish Rail sued the staff involved. It's these unofficial actions that make using the train painful; if you know a week in advance you can make alternative arrangements.

Mark Gleeson · 08-01-2008, 16:31

Apparently the strike is now over however this means the trains are all in the wrong place

Derek Wheeler · 08-01-2008, 16:34

The dispute involved one staff member (his colleagues supported him)and its concerns rosters. You'll remember that they went out last year aswell. There is a very big problem between staff and management in Cork. Morale is said to be very low. Suing staff is not the answer. Better management of staff is the way forward. IE management have a very poor record of doing this successfully.

comcor · 08-01-2008, 16:42

Maybe there's a very good reason for going out on strike, but there are still procedures to be followed about how to do it. Calling a strike with no notice is unfair on customers who are just trying to use the rail service. While I appreciate that there may be problems between managements and staff, it doesn't justify hostage-taking. Irish Rail at least need to send a message that doing things the proper way is the only way that they will negotiate.

Mark Gleeson · 08-01-2008, 16:48

Most likely reason the strike ended so quickly was the threat of legal action and the staff being sued for the loss of revenue

Note the drivers in Cork despite serious ongoing issues with management have not gone on strike and have instead held firm operated only what they agreed to do and refused to work rest days, everything by the letter

The May 2006 strike was management triggered not staff

08-01-2008, 16:07	#1
Thomas J Stamp Chairman/Publicity Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: The Home of Hurling Posts: 2,708	IMPORTANT - ALL CORK SERVICES - INDUSTRIAL DISPUTE - CANCELLATIONS DUE TO UNOFFICIAL ACTION AS A RESULT OF A DISPUTE THE FOLLOWING SERVICES ARE CANCELLED: EX CORK 1530 1630 1730 FROM MALLOW ONLY 1830 DUBLIN SERVICES RUNNING AS FOLLOWS: 15.00 TO Mallow 16.00 TO Mallow 17.00 TO Mallow 18.00 to Thurles only 19.00 20.00 21.00 ALL CANCELLED ALL LOCAL CORK/COBH SERVICES CANCELLED. __________________ We are the passengers Last edited by Mark Gleeson : 08-01-2008 at 16:27. Reason: correct formating

08-01-2008, 16:12	#2
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	This is permanent way staff not drivers NO TRAINS what so ever Mallow - Cork - Cobh 19:00, 20:00 and 21:00 Dublin Cork cancelled no substitution. The trains and drivers are trapped in the Cork area Last train leaving Heuston for Munster 18:35 to Thurles. 18:30 to Tralee appears to be running. However as Tralee services depend on drivers from Cork there may be issues as the trains they drive to Mallow are gone Limerick,Galway,Waterford,Westport,Ballina are uneffected __________________ Unhappy with new timetable - let us know Last edited by Mark Gleeson : 08-01-2008 at 16:24.

08-01-2008, 16:31	#4
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	Apparently the strike is now over however this means the trains are all in the wrong place __________________ Unhappy with new timetable - let us know

08-01-2008, 16:48	#7
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	Most likely reason the strike ended so quickly was the threat of legal action and the staff being sued for the loss of revenue Note the drivers in Cork despite serious ongoing issues with management have not gone on strike and have instead held firm operated only what they agreed to do and refused to work rest days, everything by the letter The May 2006 strike was management triggered not staff __________________ Unhappy with new timetable - let us know

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08-01-2008, 16:24	#3
comcor Really Regular Poster Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Cork-Dublin, Cork Commuter and occasionally DART and Dublin-Wexford Posts: 855	Any idea if this will be a problem on Thursday? Seeing that the required notice period for a strike has not been given, it's about time that Irish Rail sued the staff involved. It's these unofficial actions that make using the train painful; if you know a week in advance you can make alternative arrangements.

08-01-2008, 16:34	#5
Derek Wheeler Registered user Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Kildare Posts: 1,555	The dispute involved one staff member (his colleagues supported him)and its concerns rosters. You'll remember that they went out last year aswell. There is a very big problem between staff and management in Cork. Morale is said to be very low. Suing staff is not the answer. Better management of staff is the way forward. IE management have a very poor record of doing this successfully.

08-01-2008, 16:42	#6
comcor Really Regular Poster Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Cork-Dublin, Cork Commuter and occasionally DART and Dublin-Wexford Posts: 855	Maybe there's a very good reason for going out on strike, but there are still procedures to be followed about how to do it. Calling a strike with no notice is unfair on customers who are just trying to use the rail service. While I appreciate that there may be problems between managements and staff, it doesn't justify hostage-taking. Irish Rail at least need to send a message that doing things the proper way is the only way that they will negotiate.